tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post175760328489862594..comments2024-03-29T03:41:12.499+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Flagging Our Opposition.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-35226106379133063232016-02-29T17:26:10.201+13:002016-02-29T17:26:10.201+13:00Most objections to our flag appear to involve it&#...Most objections to our flag appear to involve it's supposed likeness to the Australian (see Richie McCaw's comments about when he decided we needed a new one for an example). <br />Those who can't tell the difference bewtween a flag with four red stars and one with six white stars ought to visit Specsavers before they next get behind the wheel of a car.<br />And there's absolutely nowt wrong with it (the one wth four red stars).<br />It tells the world where most of us had our originstyke15https://www.blogger.com/profile/00358043686029274553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-29027269097023679312016-02-21T20:28:44.231+13:002016-02-21T20:28:44.231+13:00I refer to two Winstons. I in army speak " sa...I refer to two Winstons. I in army speak " say again " that of Churchill's last line of his famous quote." But it is,perhaps,the end of the beginning." The Northland by-election, the work of another Winston called Peters, the TPPA protest of the " fourth of February ", the rolling strikes on the western seaboard of the USA ,the bus drivers strike on Friday in Auckland, the polling in the USA might deem to be just that, " the end of the beginning."<br />There are rumours afoot in Whangarei in inner circles as we speak and I hope they might be affirmed. Perhaps we will see another order out of left field. A " New Coalition " Government in 2017. I hope and pray.Hi Vis.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-71171327809976602122016-02-21T19:11:52.335+13:002016-02-21T19:11:52.335+13:00Anonymous at 12:50:
"I will not give my vote ...Anonymous at 12:50:<br />"I will not give my vote to National, NZ first or the Greens so it looks like I become a non-voter."<br /><br />Reply by Anonymous at 09:35<br />"Which means you've become a de facto National voter and a de facto TPPA supporter. Don't like the TPPA and are angry at Labour - vote Green or New Zealand First. But for heaven's sake, vote."<br /><br />Yes - please "Anonymous at 12:50", please vote for the least worst. Don't join the missing million.ABnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-33452167396372281792016-02-21T06:38:31.831+13:002016-02-21T06:38:31.831+13:00Good to see some jokers thinking Labour will win i...Good to see some jokers thinking Labour will win in 2017. Excellent jokeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-66766350414111769252016-02-20T21:21:31.597+13:002016-02-20T21:21:31.597+13:00@ Richard
probably not, and i have no problem wit...@ Richard<br /><br />probably not, and i have no problem with that.....its who they tax and what it is spent on that matters....and am fairly confident there wouldn't have been tax cuts and a war on the public servicespathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727942156598555852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-25873249809656232202016-02-20T12:31:50.102+13:002016-02-20T12:31:50.102+13:00Only a handful of seats are needed to get the Left...Only a handful of seats are needed to get the Left into power. Labour may actually be the recipient of these few seats. The Maori Party should lose its List seat and gains in Christchurch and Auckland for labourpeteswriteplacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474922953916383101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-24404232920718397322016-02-20T09:35:52.168+13:002016-02-20T09:35:52.168+13:00I will not give my vote to National, NZ first or t...<i>I will not give my vote to National, NZ first or the Greens so it looks like I become a non-voter.</i><br /><br />Which means you've become a de facto National voter and a de facto TPPA supporter. Don't like the TPPA and are angry at Labour - vote Green or New Zealand First. But for heaven's sake, vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-31930343520799866942016-02-19T17:23:42.960+13:002016-02-19T17:23:42.960+13:00With all the talk of ‘let’s give John Key a bloody...With all the talk of ‘let’s give John Key a bloody nose’, most people seem to have lost sight of the fact that the proposed alternative flag design is just not very good. The whole selection process was probably doomed from the start. What do ‘worthies’ (sporting and other) really know about good design?Jack Scrivanonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-13358212897038209852016-02-19T17:16:17.961+13:002016-02-19T17:16:17.961+13:00@Anon at 12:50 - don't vote (or better still s...@Anon at 12:50 - don't vote (or better still spoil your vote) unless you really like a candidate or party and feel they are worthy of a tick. Don't give your sanction to the scum who oppress us.Richard McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763002401676224819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-33168527727853201672016-02-19T17:14:48.299+13:002016-02-19T17:14:48.299+13:00@pat - You're possibly right about the next el...@pat - You're possibly right about the next election result depending in part on the fortunes of the world's economies. But would Labour have acted differently and refused to borrow and spend as National have? I don't think so.<br /><br />I will be voting for the old flag but would prefer to see it in black and white rather than red, white and blue.Richard McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763002401676224819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-8212654697837492772016-02-19T12:50:40.211+13:002016-02-19T12:50:40.211+13:00I am 78 years old and will vote to keep the presen...I am 78 years old and will vote to keep the present flag ,not as a protest against John Key but because I believe our present flag is of superior design to any of the others.<br />I am Labour by background and inclination but will not vote for Labour at the next election simply because of their stance on TPPA, they say they are against the TPPA, as I am, but if elected they will retain TPPA and not agree to the parts they do not like.<br />They will not get away with that nonsense on the international scene and it is irresponsible of them to say so.<br />I will not give my vote to National, NZ first or the Greens so it looks like I become a non-voter.<br />Little and Labour are a disappointment to say the least. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-15956001882801501952016-02-19T11:53:03.782+13:002016-02-19T11:53:03.782+13:00Personally, I'll be voting for the old flag be...Personally, I'll be voting for the old flag because the suggested alternative is an insult to my sense of aesthetics and the way it was chosen was an insult to my intelligence. <br /><br />But the Bernie phenomenon interests me, as (to a lesser extent) does youthful Corbynmania.<br /><br />Is there a deep-seated psychological yearning for a straight-shooting, compassionate, caring but angry grandfather to hector Mum and Dad along the lines of "Is this how you treat my grandchildren?"<br /><br />And none of the above is an attempt to explain Bernie away or diminish him. He may yet prove the best thing to come out of America since Jazz.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-61881629394979514712016-02-19T10:02:24.352+13:002016-02-19T10:02:24.352+13:00You might be right re 'the young folks' - ...You might be right re 'the young folks' - but the most common opinion I hear is <br />'I'd consider changing for a good design, but all these designs are terrible.' <br />I share this opinion.<br />The winning flag looks like the designer chose a Silver Fern, then when they got to the middle changed their mind to the Southern Cross. And it looks like a Weetbix packet.<br />Of course anecdote is not data, and my friends may not be a representative of all NZers. I'm in my mid 40s.<br />Plus there's no real reason to change the flag - no change of constitutional status or public mood.<br /><br />A wild guess - the union jack is actually a plus to 'the young folks'. It represents our history, and not subservience to Britain. The Gallipoli centenary and similar have brought history and the flag to mind. These days non-white kids are taught to be proud of their heritage, white kids less so. That is the message they get from their primary school teachers (fashionable lefties almost to a woman). For people of British descent, the flag with a union jack is a link to their history, something to be proud of. 'Them young ones' don't remember any subservience to Britain. What one generation rejects, the next embraces.<br /><br />You haven't mentioned Labour's utter hypocrisy - changing the flag has been a long term policy, and was in their manifesto. Yet they are now all against it, because that nasty Mr Key is behind the change. <br /><br />That really is grasping at straws re Andre Little!<br />As someone said, he looks like Wallace (of Wallace and Gromit) - or a background muppet on Sesame street.<br />I suppose commenting on his appearance isn't fair. Looking odd never hurt Muldoon. But his manner doesn't inspire confidence.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-74182823291825589292016-02-19T09:46:01.355+13:002016-02-19T09:46:01.355+13:00think you have hit the nail on the head here...the...think you have hit the nail on the head here...the flag referendum will be a popularity contest around Key without having to topple gov.....the hip pocket issues however are just around the corner so not only will Key not get his flag(despite the blatant attempts to manipulate the electorate yet again)....but the National Party will lose the election as well .....unless the worlds central bankers can keep their juggling act going for another 18 months....what chance that?pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727942156598555852noreply@blogger.com