tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post3799310117060303988..comments2024-03-28T21:25:08.138+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: The Day Labour Came Home.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-33699117455968630842020-05-16T06:44:30.039+12:002020-05-16T06:44:30.039+12:00An end to the neo lib sentiment indeed Wayne. Of c...An end to the neo lib sentiment indeed Wayne. Of course we shouldn't deviate from your sentiment, after all we adore the impoverishment of the precariat, we just love the extreme upward distribution of wealth to the mega rich. Its all so marvellous, let's just do a direct credit to Bill Gates and Besos so that they can put food on their tables.<br /><br />Your wilful blindness is pathetic. Nick Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-45542835411650543412020-05-15T21:22:26.496+12:002020-05-15T21:22:26.496+12:00Gerry Hill? I remember the great demo-crat , Jesso...Gerry Hill? I remember the great demo-crat , Jesson, despite his shyness, turning around the Auckland Harbour Board in the face of the slavering hyenas and jackels. <br /><br />America is such a lit-up show for where selfishness leads. And why is it central to born again christianity? Mystifyingly. Which is why we're glad they are only 5 % here. A govt should look after the people and tell its story.sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-26010502513426794072020-05-15T21:08:05.412+12:002020-05-15T21:08:05.412+12:00One of the new things in post-lockdown is no one c...One of the new things in post-lockdown is no one can talk about conditions for economic recovery as the priority in the light of climate change and resource exhaustion. 10 years. Just laughable, Wayne. Unless you disagree with the war governments of WW 2? It was a great distribution system, capitalism, but we are now at the ultimate crisis. 'Get in behind' you good NZer.<br />sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-8594364744475844242020-05-15T20:55:26.461+12:002020-05-15T20:55:26.461+12:00On your word I accept this. Robertson's words ...On your word I accept this. Robertson's words indicate he'll do for the neediest in the next term. Jacinda and Grant were all about the art of the possible and when that is open they remember our story. Unlike the vile American Democratic Party. 45% against demo-cracy here but we can still save our country.sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-10919695437663786732020-05-15T19:01:10.663+12:002020-05-15T19:01:10.663+12:00Came home? When the Toad came home? Who is the ...Came home? When the Toad came home? Who is the Toad? <br />(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZAB8Nk5F9kgreywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-24959912278175858172020-05-15T13:29:38.142+12:002020-05-15T13:29:38.142+12:00Chris,
Well, I guess we will see such action in th...Chris,<br />Well, I guess we will see such action in the programme set out for the upcoming election. Because the the budget didn't show a new start (apart from the rhetorical flourish). <br />I personally was expecting more. A greater sense of how the government envisaged the recovery might look like and the extent to which there would be some degree of departure from the past.<br />Perhaps the government considers they do not have the mandate for such an approach. With a election four months away, maybe they believe that type of proposition has to be won on the hustings.<br />You have already invoked the People's Manifesto. Maybe that is exactly the intent. That there will be a groundswell of support for a much more transformative approach than the Budget showed.<br />Of course the PM has used the language of transformation before, but we didn't actually see much of that in the last two years. However, a proper electoral mandate for transformation might bring it about. I personally doubt it, but we shall see.Wayne Mapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906396523791648270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-45808509186678507962020-05-15T10:52:19.646+12:002020-05-15T10:52:19.646+12:00To: Wayne Mapp.
As you might imagine, Wayne, I pa...To: Wayne Mapp.<br /><br />As you might imagine, Wayne, I pay particularly close attention to what Labour ministers do and don't say - especially in regard to the so-called "reforms" of the 1980s and 90s. That's why I can tell you with some confidence that the rhetoric deployed by Jacinda and Grant over the past 48 hours is very different from the "Oh well, we might have gone a little bit far and a little bit fast in the 1980s - but something had to be done" statements that typified Labour's half-hearted "mea culpas" of the past.<br /><br />And, in my political experience at least, Wayne, rhetoric precedes action.Chris Trotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-89238661277714343472020-05-15T09:52:03.982+12:002020-05-15T09:52:03.982+12:00The part of Grant's speech that Chris has quot...The part of Grant's speech that Chris has quoted here seems to be a part that all the other news coverage has left out. Interesting that. <br /> Referring back to the first labour government may have implications for how the money is to be found. Prebble's comment referred not to borrowing from overseas as Chris had assumed in an earlier article but to reserve bank created funding. This is what they did then and to fund the original State housing venture. In this day and age that would be truly revolutionary and entirely appropriate . This is starting to look very interesting.<br /><br /> D J Sdavid Stonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-91221601496322062722020-05-15T07:38:38.545+12:002020-05-15T07:38:38.545+12:00Grant Robertson has used that type of language man...Grant Robertson has used that type of language many times before. But in substance he tinkers rather than transforms. <br /><br />Matthew Hooton in Friday's Herald is closer to the mark. Despite the size of the figures, it is a budget that could have been expected from either of the two main parties. The main difference being the 200,000 children getting school lunches (a very good move) and the 8,000 Housing NZ houses. The fundamentals of the "neo-liberal settlement" are untouched. Not even a tax rate of 40% for incomes over $120,000. Maybe that is for the election manifesto.<br /><br />Much can be made of the $20 billion that is unallocated. Presumably for election promises. One point missed by many commentators is that the extension of the wage subsidy by 8 weeks means it ends in mid August. Can anyone imagine that will actually happen, literally a month before the election. There will be a further extension announced early August extending the subsidy for another 8 week to 12 weeks, to take it well past the election. And probably more support for small business. That could easily use $6billion of the unallocated money. Those announcements will be part of Labours election campaign. It still leaves $14 billion for other promises. Maybe an extension to Working for Families, a boost to education, more infrastructure of a more imaginative kind than seen so far.<br /><br />But the end of the "neo-liberal settlement'. Not likely.Wayne Mapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906396523791648270noreply@blogger.com