tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post4485325030660263073..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: The Wrong Side Of History?Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-44018787263475631212013-12-28T07:57:27.443+13:002013-12-28T07:57:27.443+13:00In terms of resource monopoly, economic slavery an...<i>In terms of resource monopoly, economic slavery and potential for death, European civilisation is more barbaric, savage and destructive than any other since the beginning of time. . . and at this time I wish to recognise the Soviet people for hosting this conference . . . Our fight for a better world will only be won . . . when the white man comes homhttp://www.trevorloudon.com/2007/08/hone-harawira-beefsteak-radical/e.”</i><br /><br />If Hone Harawira is on the right side of History it is only good luck.jhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-57641693466999152652013-12-27T19:41:54.258+13:002013-12-27T19:41:54.258+13:00Yes I concur with Skippers. Pro-tour people were s...Yes I concur with Skippers. Pro-tour people were seldom motivated by racism. I was mildy anti-tour - by that I mean I joined a couple of anti-tour marches, and was very much against the concept of racism, but as a geeky 20 year old I didn't actually know much about South Africa or apartheid, and I was very uncertain about the significance of the rugby tour. And unfortunately, arrogance and lust for conflict were apparent on both sides. <br />Looking deeper, one contributor to the conflict was the FPP electoral system. National gained fewer votes than Labour in 78 and Social Credit polled 16% and got only one seat. The voters were thwarted. They were not not behind Muldoon or his policies, which created an underlying tension that energised the anti-tour movement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-71183601302056771012013-12-27T11:29:30.063+13:002013-12-27T11:29:30.063+13:00Thinking about the Balkins the left didn't ach...Thinking about the Balkins the left didn't achieve too much; a free market would have achieved a less explosive mix by allowing economic relationships and mutual dependence (think Barrfoot and Thompson).<br />A human economy is just another ecosystem where resources are utilised. If you have too many people and not enough resources people start hurting and then they divide along convenient lines (racial/tribal).<br />How will SA play out?jhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-57767765816482600962013-12-27T11:15:29.608+13:002013-12-27T11:15:29.608+13:00Claiming victory against racism in South Africa is...Claiming victory against racism in South Africa is one thing but the fight seems to be going on on to destroy white dominance in so called (migration) "destination countries":<br /><br /><i>It is further assumed in this research programme that talk and text about minorities, immigrants, refugees or, more generally, about people of colour or Third World peoples and nations, also have broader societal, political and cultural functions. Besides positive self-presentation and negative other-presentation, such discourse signals group membership, white in group allegiances and, more generally, the various conditions for the reproduction of the white group and their dominance in virtually all social, political and cultural domains.</i><br /><br />VAN DIJK: Discourse and denial of racism [Cited by Professor Spoonley.<br /><br />Whites (apparently) brought imperialism and the capitalist system on otherwise nicely cooperative nations and ethnic groupings.<br /><br />Margaret Mutu cites Professor Spoonley in a similar vien:<br /><br /><i>A dominant group not only holds negative beliefs about other groups but, because of the power to control resources, is able to practice those beliefs in a discriminatory way ... This ideological concept structures social and political relationships and derives from a history of European colonialism. The idea of ‘race’ has evolved from its use in scientific explanation (now discredited) and as a justification in the oppression of<br />colonised, non European people </i><br />http://www.nzmediastudies.org.nz/articles/sueabelmargaretmutu1202.pdf<br /><br />There is oodles of evidence that racism is innate in *humans* - a notion at odds with the above paradigm, yet racism is the weapon used to attack those opposed to immigration from <i>anywhere and everywhere</i>.<br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21220339<br /><br />So called "destination countries" just happen to still have things like a nice environment and low population, yet they have <i>already</i> developed and have reached diminishing returns.<br /><br />Professor Spoonley refers to Christchurch thus:<br /><br /><i>One thing he is clear about is that the demographic changes set to occur in Christchurch could transform the city infamous for its white supremacist National Front movement. While Christchurch does have small ethnic enclaves, hosting lantern festivals for Chinese New Year and Diwali festivals for the Indian community, the scale of the anticipated migrant influx is unparalleled in its history.</i><br />http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/about-massey/news/article.cfm?mnarticle_uuid=86EB3C7F-B375-B8DF-A111-53B3788C75E5<br /> <br />Professor Kenneth Cumberland <i>Landmarks</i>:<br /><br /><i>Bold young men drove sheep on to the vast grazing runs to found pastoral empires and land owning dynasties. Out of the wealth from the squatters’ wool clips, and from wheat when the tussock was ploughed, grew a city of scholarship, grace and dignity” <br /></i>jhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-19379060553457359312013-12-17T22:10:18.695+13:002013-12-17T22:10:18.695+13:00The PM was obviously on the wrong side of history ...The PM was obviously on the wrong side of history and the other Hone (Harawira) was. So were those who thought politics and sport shouldn't mix because it was about apartheid which was a racist system that even chose our teams on the basis of race for a long time. You won't see pro-SA rugby tours supporters admitting they were wrong and like the PM they are more likely to suffer the John Key illness; amnesia.<br />atihanahttp://atihana-maorireview.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-70272986679056294202013-12-15T21:35:29.427+13:002013-12-15T21:35:29.427+13:00@Kat; voting only works when there is a choice bet...@Kat; voting only works when there is a choice between two diametric opposites. For the last 30yrs or so we have had Tweedledum and Tweedledee, both rightwing. <br /><br />NZ desperately needs a true leftwing party to balance out the politics and give people a real choice. Will Cunliffe fill that gap? I reserve my judgment on that one.<br /><br />There is little point in "Voting Key Out" if we are going to get a Key clone.Davo Stevensnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-48652834371556428492013-12-14T22:28:52.611+13:002013-12-14T22:28:52.611+13:00Lets face it, from one election to another a minim...Lets face it, from one election to another a minimum of approximately one million New Zealanders who can vote support right wing politics.<br /><br />Voting is where it is at.<br /><br />If you don't like Key VOTE him gone!<br /> Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-75339467193838654172013-12-14T19:30:50.131+13:002013-12-14T19:30:50.131+13:00Anon @22.52
Who said Minto was not allowed to go ...Anon @22.52<br /><br />Who said Minto was not allowed to go to Nelson Mandala's funeral?<br /><br />If he has a valid passport (and there is no suggestion he does not) he can as easily hop onto a plane to South Africa as you and I. <br /><br />Now if the South African government considered him worthy enough they would have found a spot for him in the entourage alongside Obama.<br /><br />Gerritnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-30143503737055686152013-12-13T22:52:29.665+13:002013-12-13T22:52:29.665+13:00Those who actually fought against the evil and hel...Those who actually fought against the evil and helped to end it aren't allowed to go to Mandela's funeral, whilst members of the pro-tour government are, and no-one in a position of power bats an eyelid. <br /><br />It's a good lesson in politics. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-32005195595851771872013-12-13T12:04:48.733+13:002013-12-13T12:04:48.733+13:00From what I clearly remember of the Tour debate, t...From what I clearly remember of the Tour debate, the argument in New Zealand was generally along the lines of "Sport and politics are completely separate, rugby has nothing to do with apartheid and the problems in South Africa." <br />In other words, don't get between me and my rugby.<br />A selfish, narrow, sport- obsessed view rather than a racist position. <br />Skippershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00674798072085852560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-15648244268159087182013-12-13T11:59:42.497+13:002013-12-13T11:59:42.497+13:00For those apologists of apartheid - who are not mu...For those apologists of apartheid - who are not much different to those who blame the poor for being poor and those on welfare for being on welfare - to accept the realities of racism means having to confront and do something about it.<br /><br />That's where racism, bigotry, bene-bashing, etc, is more preferable. It means having to do nothing. Just parrot a few rightwing cliches. No further effort required. Sorted.<br /><br /> Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01692659460246506641noreply@blogger.com