tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post4686097517295391138..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: That Seventies Show.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-29133424284513542182019-07-19T21:43:00.394+12:002019-07-19T21:43:00.394+12:00Dear Kat,
why do the neediest have to wait in the...Dear Kat,<br /><br />why do the neediest have to wait in the Arcadia of Ardern? Why can't climate change really be addressed?<br /><br />The 'winter of discontent' in 2000, of rich pricks who benefitted from the dissolution of the old social-democratic common-wealth, is the real motto of your Labour Party. <br /><br />Even in '35, my favourite Labour Party, they refused to elevate my old Socialist G. Grandfather to the upper house because of his compulsion for foul language ('bluidy'). Couldn't help himself even on national radio. Really a sign of the powder-puff socialism to come -- they didn't take the rudder like Scandinavia. Peter Fraser warning Warren Freer against mentioning socialism was the death knell, intellectually. Gave up the battlefield.<br /><br />Social liberalism, while great, follows parallel with the decline of popular rule. Proposition: Muldoon was better than Fran Wilde in that respect. My garden centre /union boss boss knew it immediately. <br /><br />Affection, Kat.<br /><br /><br /><br />sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-69310299490196406702019-07-13T09:53:46.023+12:002019-07-13T09:53:46.023+12:00This was the 1970s
https://www.youtube.com/channel...This was the 1970s<br />https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_hvSbVt_OVyiopfwCWx2_A?view_as=subscriberJohn Hurleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50076130785744843582019-07-02T16:45:59.655+12:002019-07-02T16:45:59.655+12:00Kirk's government pledged to end legalised ass...Kirk's government pledged to end legalised assault in our schools. This did not happen until 1990. Females over 10 were legally protected from the foul tempered sadistic creeps who dominated our schools from 1967.<br /><br />Kirk also promised to " Take the bikes off the bikies ". I note with interest that not only have the bikies still got their bikes, but the outlaw MC's are bigger, wealthier, better armed and better organised.<br /><br />I do not believe that Kirk clutched Labour's 1972 election manifesto that tightly.<br /><br />PS, members of outlaw MC's HATE being called bikies. They prefer to be called bikers.Shane McDowallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09354384369518580573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-40790602159926881522019-07-02T10:03:25.680+12:002019-07-02T10:03:25.680+12:00But is Jacinda Arden another David Lange, like a c...But is Jacinda Arden another David Lange, like a colourful, enthusing banner waved aloft; but then the soldiers march behind with orders to deal with the reality behind that eye-catching banner, and go about their grisly, mundane business-as-usual.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-21342329744318075872019-06-30T20:26:41.644+12:002019-06-30T20:26:41.644+12:00Ah, Sumsuch......
Jacinda Ardern is not just a &q...Ah, Sumsuch......<br /><br />Jacinda Ardern is not just a "pretty communist" and the "papery" you allude to is more a reflection of perception than reality. The first time I saw and heard Norm Kirk was at the "Kelly" in Christchurch, it was the late 60's I was in my late teens. At the time I knew people who were active members of the Socialist Action league. I never got into that, I was attracted to Labour mainly because I was involved in various anti Vietnam protests and the policy of ending conscription was high on my political wish list. The Kirk govt opposition to the Vietnam war, anti nuclear protests and Frigates to Mururoa were all part of the mix. I suppose I have been a Lefty ever since. I was in the UK when David Lange gave his nuclear debate at Oxford Union and it was a very proud time to be a Kiwi. What followed with Rogernomics and the ransacking of this country's infrastructure by mad dog Prebble was the opposite. That was a gut wrenching cup of tea that David Lange stopped for. We live with the consequences of the destructive Thatcher/Reagan neoliberal legacy today. Jacinda Ardern reminds me a lot of Norm Kirk in the way she projects her political ideals and has done since she became leader of the Labour party. I believe the best is yet to come. Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-43350647943988242752019-06-29T22:11:26.078+12:002019-06-29T22:11:26.078+12:00Oh, Kat.
The difference between papery now and go...Oh, Kat.<br /><br />The difference between papery now and golden then isn't intellect but the drive that overshot in F.P.Walsh etc. They were often personal monsters. Fury, motivation, fight, from difficult lives (and psychologies). Or representation of reality. I don't expect there is much of that in my middle class, as proved in 84.sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-80165105851366850472019-06-29T03:41:22.273+12:002019-06-29T03:41:22.273+12:00To describe this government as one that believes t...To describe this government as one that believes that to say it is to do it is a pretty damning criticism.but not undeserved..The only question now is for how long we will put up with being continually disappointed by their lack of delivery....GJEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-45263190750022794972019-06-28T15:58:09.243+12:002019-06-28T15:58:09.243+12:00This run down on the state of politics works for m...This run down on the state of politics works for me<br /><br />https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/06/closing-conservative-mind-towards-new-left-conservatismJohn Hurleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-57003081811605602722019-06-28T15:35:27.586+12:002019-06-28T15:35:27.586+12:00"Your right "Anonymous". Completely..."Your right "Anonymous". Completely off topic!"<br />No, Fair point.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-75375112961760357082019-06-28T09:27:27.112+12:002019-06-28T09:27:27.112+12:00It may be that women prefer to be called by their ...It may be that women prefer to be called by their first or given (or sometimes taken) names while men are often more comfortable with their second/family/surname and society in its conventional discourse respects that difference.<br />It would be interesting to know how many popular singers, for example, choose to be known principally by their first name and how many by their family name, and then to see whether there is a gender distinction at work there. I suspect there might be.<br />In any case I don't think that Chris is being either condescending or partisan towards Jacinda Ardern. As in most things, he displays a curious ambivalence towards the current Prime Minister.Geoff Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00509885628971898371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-74479735595389114632019-06-28T07:38:52.948+12:002019-06-28T07:38:52.948+12:00Seems to me Jacinda has become a "brand"...Seems to me Jacinda has become a "brand".Nick Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12609312325425361413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-12172379514350400122019-06-28T07:06:34.140+12:002019-06-28T07:06:34.140+12:00Your right "Anonymous". Completely off t...Your right "Anonymous". Completely off topic!<br /><br />Fred RetterAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10877396755232351047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-37954252525138419502019-06-27T21:19:08.351+12:002019-06-27T21:19:08.351+12:00At last the Ruminations of an Old New Zealander ge...At last the Ruminations of an Old New Zealander gets to acknowledge the similarities between Norm Kirks govt and Jacinda Arderns. Well, I shall tell you this Chris Trotter, Norm is smiling on Jacinda and you bloody well know it. A young women competing in the mosh pit of politics today she has the equivalent credentials as Norm had back in 72. Jacinda is no bricklayer but she knows a good foundation when she see's one. This country has not been in better hands since 1975. Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-55131042469749623422019-06-27T18:10:26.740+12:002019-06-27T18:10:26.740+12:00@ Anonymous 12 51
Boris Johnson is "Bor...@ Anonymous 12 51<br /> Boris Johnson is "Boris" (or Bozo) but Donald Trump is "Trump"; Robert Muldoon was Piggy, Helen Clark was Helen Clark.<br />It's something to do with which name is a clear identification that becomes a norm and it's all over the place. But Jacinda is unusual enough to not be confused with anyone else as is Boris. Just think about how other politicians are referred to . It's random, but one nemonica always gets to be understood.<br />D J SDavid Stonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-68601963083801810112019-06-27T17:46:50.280+12:002019-06-27T17:46:50.280+12:00I'd point out that Jacinda said it was the mos...I'd point out that Jacinda said it was the most progressive government SINCE the Kirk-Rowling years.<br /><br />That means comparing this Government with the 1975-2017 lot. It is unquestionably more progressive than Muldoon, Bolger, or Key. That leaves the Fourth and Fifth Labour Governments - Lange and Clark. It's those you have to evaluate Jacinda against, not Kirk. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-83854107778147277082019-06-27T15:19:54.277+12:002019-06-27T15:19:54.277+12:00Another difference between this government and Kir...Another difference between this government and Kirk's is that in this broad church there are few if any who don't accept some form of neoliberal economics. Given that people in the States are becoming more – as they call it liberal – and given Kiwi Dave's "new left" it looks like New Zealand is as usual a few years behind the play.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-72357232165832181272019-06-27T12:51:17.070+12:002019-06-27T12:51:17.070+12:00Chris, completely off topic but, in most paragraph...Chris, completely off topic but, in most paragraphs you address Ardern with her given name, the male PM's of earlier Labour governments with their surnames. Either you are being condescending or you are unconsciously wanting us to be at one with her, her politics and government by feeling that we have a closer relationship by use of the familiar name.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-66761246827649793332019-06-27T12:20:16.717+12:002019-06-27T12:20:16.717+12:00Kirk was rather similar to Australia’s Gough Whitl...Kirk was rather similar to Australia’s Gough Whitlam. Good on lots of stuff but not the economy. Jacinda is much more pragmatic. Barrie Saundersnoreply@blogger.com