tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post4836194957974276378..comments2024-03-29T03:41:12.499+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Spinning, Spinning, Spinning: Are Matthew Hooton's TPP Musings Personal Or Professional?Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-70714128338932747612015-10-22T09:59:56.316+13:002015-10-22T09:59:56.316+13:00Mike Williams and Mathew Hooton friends? They dese...Mike Williams and Mathew Hooton friends? They deserve each other. Remember how Mike Williams went to Oz in a last desperate attempt to 'dig some dirt' on John Key....Jigsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906156865367357834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-34259631693639798692015-10-22T09:54:44.044+13:002015-10-22T09:54:44.044+13:00Both, personal and professional, he knows how to m...Both, personal and professional, he knows how to make a Quid. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-60272834798638414452015-10-22T09:46:59.345+13:002015-10-22T09:46:59.345+13:00"Another thing against Kelsey's team is N..."Another thing against Kelsey's team is NZ biz may successful sue the US, or Japan or Canada. Then will you still oppose it?"<br /><br />Yes. If it's wrong in principle than it is wrong – both ways. As long as the law seems genuinely concerned with something like preserving the environment, rather than simply preserving local businesses. That sort of moral ambiguity is what pisses me off about the right.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50459318673771778692015-10-21T16:58:55.088+13:002015-10-21T16:58:55.088+13:00Of course Hooton does work for your enemies Chris ...Of course Hooton does work for your enemies Chris but who ever said, let alone Hooton, that he didn't? He's a fully 'interests declared' party.<br />And one man's spin is another man's well seated, objective argument or fact. You know that as you do both all the time.<br /><br />On the TTP I don't think it is done yet. The US may reject it. They too have very silly politicians who say they will cancel it or flout it, and other treaties. Trump for one. Yeah right, but they may not have to eat their words if it does not pass Congress.<br /><br />To be fair to Little, I think he meant his government would pass whatever laws were right for NZers, and if sued, so be it. That is true of most governments and so he should have right away clarified that and withdrawn 'flout'.<br />Only if NZ gets sued will the huge majority that has no real concerns about the TPP take another look. And then only if it's a major issue of policy we are sued on and then only if we lose. If not the TPP will get even more support.<br />Another thing against Kelsey's team is NZ biz may successful sue the US, or Japan or Canada. Then will you still oppose it?Charles Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-82630489990758366982015-10-21T15:03:09.398+13:002015-10-21T15:03:09.398+13:00Re: Labour party insights, you must remember that ...Re: Labour party insights, you must remember that Hooton is a good friend of Mike Williams ex-Labour party president of some standing. They often appear on radio and both refer to each other as friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-16767564894823376972015-10-21T14:19:28.037+13:002015-10-21T14:19:28.037+13:00Somebody at 9.49 21/10 said that because some Labo...Somebody at 9.49 21/10 said that because some Labour leader liked TPP that was good enough for them. Of course some NZs don't care to set any standards for anything and are too craven to make a complaint even. She'll be right, don't worry. +<br /><br />So don't read about the other treaties and the bad deals countries have had from them. Don't inform yourself as is your precious right, hard-won by thoughtful, protective citizens. You probably thought Roger Douglas was the best thing since sliced bread too. 'A businessman who knew what he was talking about, get the country on its feet etc...'..greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-33933376271496220552015-10-21T14:11:57.939+13:002015-10-21T14:11:57.939+13:00“It's not as if the public was pressing them f...“It's not as if the public was pressing them for a decision on it.”–Guerrilla Surgeon<br /><br />exactly, why was the 5 point TPP bottom line recoiled from within hours of NZLP’s short lineup meeting the Groser delegation? if not obviously explainable–deep state is the answer–c’mon old chap some things are bigger than this ghastly party thing, old sausage…you don’t want things to get sticky, remember how we shook up Goffy in 2011…Tiger Mountainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-25094086668698606042015-10-21T09:49:25.131+13:002015-10-21T09:49:25.131+13:00President Obama, Helen Clarke, Phil Goff and now (...President Obama, Helen Clarke, Phil Goff and now (allegedly reluctantly) Andrew Little are in favour of the TPP. <br /><br />Helen said we would be crazy not to be part of such and important trading block, Phil Goff has said the TPP is not the monster its detractors claim (he after all kicked it off and knows it back to front) and of course National believes its good for us. <br /><br />Another Liberal Nobel Laureate golden boy Paul Krugman is having second thoughts about the TPP, initially he was a lukewarm opponent (this guy won his Nobel for trade theory so he would know). His parting comment on it is:<br />"The TPP looks better than it did, which infuriates much of Congress.:<br /><br />I can't see us losing much from the TPP, and we gain reasonably, at the end of the day if its good enough for the greatest labour leader in living memory then its good enough for me.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-17144528988335344982015-10-20T18:28:16.624+13:002015-10-20T18:28:16.624+13:00lmao...aint no doubt about it...one must concede h...lmao...aint no doubt about it...one must concede however that Mr Hooton has developed a nice little earner for sweet f a pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727942156598555852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-87353009914901748382015-10-20T15:28:19.586+13:002015-10-20T15:28:19.586+13:00I am beginning to believe that Andrew Little is fi...I am beginning to believe that Andrew Little is finding that he is leader in name only. But even that doesn't begin to unpick the question of how labour could have cocked this up so comprehensively. Hooton analysed this on Monday with Catherine Ryan, not very often I agree with him but he was pretty spot on there. All they had to do was say "We'll wait until we see the actual document." It's not as if the public was pressing them for a decision on it. But now cock-up seems like an understatement.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50248172981314638762015-10-20T15:24:55.503+13:002015-10-20T15:24:55.503+13:00Mathew's mother put the nappies on the wrong e...Mathew's mother put the nappies on the wrong end when he was a baby.Bushbaptisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09657695593141243969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-23610500408938786022015-10-20T14:08:30.006+13:002015-10-20T14:08:30.006+13:00Well I am not 100% sure, but he acknowledges that ...Well I am not 100% sure, but he acknowledges that he is from the right, he certainly has sources within Labour, I have some proof of what he says from one of the LECs in Auckland. He would probably have sources in all the political parties because of his writing, radio and television appearances, he is widely followed by all political parties and people from those parties would communicate with him. He is a good writer and communicator. He knows a great deal about the political processes in NZ. I believe his TPP opinions are honest and well written. I have never spoken or had contact with him. Chris, I have never spoken or had contact with you and I believe your opinions are honest and well written. The truth of the matter is that Labour have stuffed up badly on the TPP, they are seen by many who comment politically that they are, ill informed (beef to India), inept and unworthy of support. I agree with most of them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-10298883881166361922015-10-20T13:03:44.335+13:002015-10-20T13:03:44.335+13:00So that's where the Sparkles went. Cadbury st...So that's where the Sparkles went. Cadbury stopped making Sparkles in 2008 (Kiwi lollies lose their Sparkle). This was reported on by the indefatigable Dominion Post which will no doubt follow this report and delve into Matthew Hooton's involvement with this sweet treat. <br /><br />But the trend today is to steer clear of sugar, as latest scientific findings have found it injurious to individual's health and welfare and the nation's economic wellbeing. I think Hooton should desist in dabbling in this enterprise, whatever the prize is for him.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-88323925203611393802015-10-20T12:52:08.419+13:002015-10-20T12:52:08.419+13:00Well sniffed Chris: rats may be washed and perfume...Well sniffed Chris: rats may be washed and perfumed but ultimately they still smell of rat.<br /><br />To answer the newspaper question of why they have not been rat catching, simple: they are owned, run and operated by rats. Nick Jnoreply@blogger.com