tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post6685188304022913160..comments2024-03-29T03:41:12.499+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Why Is The Left Not Opposing The West’s New Cold War With China?Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-57963442349692102382020-08-04T22:33:43.212+12:002020-08-04T22:33:43.212+12:00Slightly off-topic, but since I commented above &q...Slightly off-topic, but since I commented above "Hopefully the repatriation precedent set in the case of Alain Mafart and Dominique Prieur will not be applied to (Brenton Tarrant)" it is pertinent to note that the New Zealand public are now being prepared for just such a move.<br />In the media, the high cost of keeping Tarrant in prison is being cited as a reason to "send him home". The Prime Minister, on the other hand, asserts that he would only be repatriated to Australia in deference to the sensitivities of his surviving victims. <br />But why would Australia want him? Simply because just as the DGSE had an interest in Prieur and Mafart, ASIO has a very strong interest in Tarrant. Evidently ASIO wants him back home, and that being the case I would be very surprised if he does in fact serve out his sentence in a New Zealand penal institution.Geoff Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00509885628971898371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-82757181570156414512020-07-30T09:17:39.269+12:002020-07-30T09:17:39.269+12:00Thank you, Chris, for your very important commenta...Thank you, Chris, for your very important commentary and for your follow-up piece appearing in The Daily Blog on July 30. I live in Vancouver, Canada. Along with the UK, Australia and New Zealand, Canada is closely joined with the Trump regime in pursuing an aggressive cold war against China. Such bedfellows! That includes Canada's assistance to the Trump regime in seeking to railroad the chief financial officer of Huawei Technologies, Meng Wanzhou, into the U.S. judicial and prison gulag on accusations (dating more than ten years ago) that Huawei circumvented the immoral and internationally illegal U.S. sanctions against Iran. She was detained by Canadian police and border agents at the Vancouver airport on Dec 4, 2018 and has been under arrest ever since, fighting a threatened extradition to the U.S. Sadly, your article's analysis of the failings of the Western left with respect to China applies to the broad silence of Canada's political left (such as it is) to this international act of kidnapping. You can follow the news of Meng Wanzhou's legal battle on the 'Canada news' headlines page of my website.<br />The threats and moves against China by the Western imperialist countries raises the same fundamental issue as with the West's earlier new cold war against Russia, launched at the time of the right-wing coup in Ukraine in February 2014 and the subsequent decision by referendum of the people of Crimea to secede from this Ukraine--namely, what is the exact character of the economic and social formations of China and Russia? Are they 'imperialist', as misguided leftists, including those of the International Socialists' tradition, believe and argue (without the slightest effort to substantiate their case)? Or are they historically unique and unprecedented examples of state capitalism? Even if Russia and/or China are deemed to be 'imperialist', it would still be wrong for left-wing thinkers to adopt a 'plague on all their houses' stance in the face of the West's economic embargos and threatened military interventions. The military threats happen to include the renewal of a nuclear arms race being spearheaded by successive U.S. regimes--first Obama, now Trump. How can serious leftists be indifferent to the very real threats of nuclear warfare which U.S. plicy (and that of its lapdog allies) present so acutely? It boggles the mind. But it so happens that the phrase 'imperialist' (the charge never amounts to more than phraseology) is factually inaccurate. I recommend two essays on the subject:<br />* The myth of ‘Russian imperialism’: In defense of Lenin’s analyses, by Renfrey Clarke and Roger Annis, Feb 29, 2016 <br />https://socialistincanada.ca/the-myth-of-russian-imperialism-in-defense-of-lenins-analyses/<br />* Lenin’s theory of imperialism: A defence of its relevance in the 21st century, by Sam King, winter 2015-16 (specifically addressing the claim of a Chinese 'imperialism')<br />https://marxistleftreview.org/articles/lenins-theory-of-imperialism-a-defence-of-its-relevance-in-the-21st-century/<br />Best wishes,<br />Roger Annis<br />https://socialistincanada.ca/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06690021395380476883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-27170353647789544082020-07-29T13:25:52.981+12:002020-07-29T13:25:52.981+12:00The extreme right are targeting universities. I...The extreme right are targeting universities. I think that is probable, they are targeting everything that attempts to see through their pernicious and poisonous propaganda. Referring to some USA universities that have strayed away from straight academia there is a lively book that looks at the phenomenon which ends up in murder, and is just about right fare for the present time of world brouhaha. <br /><br />An English Baroness Jack Troutbeck is involved, along with her parrot, and manages to scupper the deadly academics. It's by Ruth Dudley Edwards called Murdering Americans Might have to be ordered from your library, and her books seem to have largely vanished from public domain here.<br />https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/131277.Murdering_Americans<br /><br />greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-90217443236656177602020-07-29T11:11:35.494+12:002020-07-29T11:11:35.494+12:00"certain elements in the New Zealand state, i..."certain elements in the New Zealand state, in deference to their "partners" in the Five Eyes alliance, wish to provoke an economic, political, and possibly military conflict with the PRC"<br /><br />Quite possibly. But there are also others on the left who want to minimise the racism inherent in Chinese society and government for reasons of their own. I prefer to use my free speech which you all cherish of course, to point this out.<br /><br />"because China doesn't have the corpses of slaves in the foundations of any of its famous structural achievements."<br /><br />Those that believe this have never heard of the great Wall of China obviously. You could perhaps stop ascribing this ignorance to everyone on the left however.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-56630609741524296642020-07-29T10:01:31.280+12:002020-07-29T10:01:31.280+12:00For the benefit of "Guerilla Surgeon"
I ...For the benefit of "Guerilla Surgeon"<br />I am not denying that the PRC is subject to a totalitarian system of government.<br />I am not denying any of the connotations of that reality. <br />I am not denying that Chinese people can be racist.<br />I am saying that:<br />certain elements in the New Zealand state, in deference to their "partners" in the Five Eyes alliance, wish to provoke an economic, political, and possibly military conflict with the PRC <br />and <br />there are many people on the left, like Guerilla Surgeon, who are willing to assist them in that objective by using "exaggeration for effect" in denigrating people of Chinese ethnicity.<br />This is all in accordance with the game plan which New Zealand's "security chiefs" laid out three years ago.<br />It may serve the interests of the colonial regime (although even that is debatable) but it is not in the interests of the people of Aotearoa, or any peoples anywhere in the world.Geoff Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00509885628971898371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-9762488232715872020-07-29T06:52:19.345+12:002020-07-29T06:52:19.345+12:00The first paragraph is very boilerplate leftwing s...The first paragraph is very boilerplate leftwing self-flagellation about the "evil West"... because China doesn't have the corpses of slaves in the foundations of any of its famous structural achievements.<br />Here's a simple question; if this is what the CCP does to its own countrymen.... what would they do to us if they held the whip hand?<br /><br />An article that puts a fine honey soy glaze over forced sterilisations & concentration camps, with much the same naivety as of its forebear, which fantasied about "Jacinda being an honest broker" between the Uighurs & the CCP (because the Chinese really really love it when foreigners interfere in their internal affairs).<br /><br />It's long overdue to call out & stand up to Chinese aggression. <br />Those who believe they'll earn a treat for Kowtowing to their CCP overlords are simply appeasers & Quislingsthesorrow&thepitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-23886755664960467352020-07-28T21:13:43.234+12:002020-07-28T21:13:43.234+12:00Odysseus: I don't know how long one has to be ...Odysseus: I don't know how long one has to be resident in New Zealand in order to be considered a New Zealander. The previous National government seemed to settle on about 8 days. I personally don't have a view on it.<br />I merely believe that Tarrant is "New Zealand's Brenton Tarrant" because, if justice is served, he will remain in New Zealand for the rest of his life. Hopefully the repatriation precedent set in the case of Alain Mafart and Dominique Prieur will not be applied to him.<br />Is he a racist? <br />As you point out, most New Zealanders "are prohibited by the State from reading his own account of his motivations for his heinous crime".<br />On the other hand I would not have categorized him as a racist without good evidence to that effect.<br />Within a few months you will know whatever your government feels you should be allowed to know about Brenton Tarrant. If that proves insufficient to answer your questions, just ask around your acquaintance. Someone among them will have access to the original documents.Geoff Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00509885628971898371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-91621228068981589372020-07-28T18:30:11.159+12:002020-07-28T18:30:11.159+12:00There are always two sides to every story Brendan....There are always two sides to every story Brendan. The "riots" for instance – interestingly enough most unbiased sources say that 99% of the demonstrators are peaceful and occasionally a few of them get out of hand, or maybe it's just criminals taking advantage of the situation. But Fox news and all those "fair and balanced" sources stress nothing but riots it's as if everyone is rioting and that's simply not true. I've used the magic of that there interweb thingy to talk to people in Portland, and they've told me that it was perfectly peaceful until Trump sent his thugs into kidnap people off the streets.<br /><br />What is true, and what is well-known is that the extreme right are targeting universities, and using the whole idea of "freedom of speech" to insinuate themselves onto the campuses and make converts.<br />I watched one of the videos Brendan but to be honest after I spent hours looking at Kiwi Dave's right wing pundits in an effort to see some sense in them, because he'd asked me to, I just haven't the time to waste any more. If we talking about bias, some of those are outright crazy. The problem is of course that for months afterwards your YouTube recommendations consist of 50% right wing nutcases like Jordan Peterson and so on. I simply can't........ can't.......... be arsed.<br />But as I said, conservatives always find the most extreme spokesperson for anything and assume that everyone thinks like them. I notice you haven't spoken to that.<br />(Matthew 10:34)<br />Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-69292594774106960642020-07-28T15:19:09.896+12:002020-07-28T15:19:09.896+12:00Hi GS
Jesus instructs his disciples to be “wise a...Hi GS<br /><br />Jesus instructs his disciples to be “wise as serpents and harmless as doves” but it seems I’ll just have to settle for “sweet, trusting and naïve”. (*chuckle*)<br /><br />Given the Huffington Post and its contributors are known for their fierce objectivity and absence of political bias I will have to accept their narrative against Left leaning Professor Bret Weinstein without question. However, I do think you would benefit from actually viewing the videos to observe for yourself who was acting aggressively who was not. Much of the video material was provided by the students themselves who loaded it up to their social media accounts.<br /><br />But look, this is a rapidly unfolding story that is not being covered well by the mainstream media. We keep hearing about the ‘mostly peaceful’ riots that are taking place in daily in Portland, and also in Seattle, New York, and many other cities around the world. These riots against racism almost always end in violence against the police and the destruction of property. They are not being led by the ‘far right’ or ‘white supremacists’ or the like. They are almost exclusively the domain of the Left as they seek to tear down injustice by means of violence and injustice. <br /><br />Jesus had something to say about that as well. (Matthew 26:52)Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-54771796461666602412020-07-28T13:57:16.902+12:002020-07-28T13:57:16.902+12:00Oh Brendan. Sometimes I do despair – greywarbler c...Oh Brendan. Sometimes I do despair – greywarbler called you sweet and trusting – I possibly go with naïve. That college is an experimental university founded in the late 1960s. It is not in fact mainstream. But even if it was, you only get half the story. I'll post a link to the rest of it when I've finished.<br />Unfortunately Brendan you and many conservatives have a habit of doing this – finding an outlier and then associating everyone remotely to the left of Genghis Khan with it. It's particularly annoying with American conservatives with whom I sometimes correspond. They will find one member of the BLM movement for instance who says they are Marxist, and all of a sudden it's "you people" and let's arm ourselves the revolution is coming. Might I suggest you are doing the same thing? Christ it's not that long ago since some arse on this site called me a communist and then slunk away like a whipped cur when I asked them to produce evidence from my posts. Put it this way Brendan, it's a little similar to when I mistakenly accused you of being a fundamentalist Christian. Although to be honest, if you could produce me a right-wing thinker who been so accurate in their predictions as Karl Marx I'd be surprised. But we don't all follow his prescription for Utopia.<br /><br />Anyway, here's the part of the story that your YouTube friend didn't tell you.<br /><br />https://www.huffpost.com/entry/evergreen-state-college-another-side_b_598cd293e4b090964295e8fcGuerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-16702953676200481732020-07-28T13:51:14.724+12:002020-07-28T13:51:14.724+12:00Geoff Fisher "exaggeration for effect is not ...Geoff Fisher "exaggeration for effect is not appropriate when writing or talking critically about Chinese, Mexicans, Polynesians, blacks or any other ethnic group. – that seems a little politically correct? Still, I have experienced it firsthand, and I have talked to other people who have experienced firsthand, which is probably more than you've done. And if you don't believe me, here's an article from an extreme right racist website that says pretty much the same thing. Oh – sorry to disappoint it's the Guardian.<br />https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/25/coronavirus-exposed-china-history-racism-africans-guangzhou<br /><br />PS – I would never call you "woke" – I never use the word being way over 30.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-44438752917075354652020-07-28T11:32:03.387+12:002020-07-28T11:32:03.387+12:00I suggest that "exaggeration for effect"...I suggest that "exaggeration for effect" is not appropriate when writing or talking critically about Chinese, Mexicans, Polynesians, blacks or any other ethnic group. <br />Call me woke if you like, but in flirting with racism the New Zealand left is playing with fire. Geoff Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00509885628971898371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-29985425423695109222020-07-28T11:28:58.944+12:002020-07-28T11:28:58.944+12:00Brendan McNeil
The treatment of the Uighurs is an...Brendan McNeil <br /><i>The treatment of the Uighurs is an expression of evil in the foul tradition of all communist dictatorships. Thankfully the Australian government is unafraid to place its values above pragmatic financial self interest. We could learn a good deal from them. </i><br /><br />'The Australian government....values...above pragmatic financial self interest.' Hah. That's all I have to say. You have a sweet, trusting nature Brendan, But I advise to keep safe, don't take lollies from a stranger.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-41963888200715556702020-07-28T11:24:08.682+12:002020-07-28T11:24:08.682+12:00Mr Fischer your ideas are so wet they are soggy.
I...Mr Fischer your ideas are so wet they are soggy.<br /><i>If the New Zealand left was sincere in its professed concern for the Uighers, Tibetans and the people of Hong Kong, it would not stoop to racist smears on an entire people, and it would not be making common cause with the despicable Donald Trump. It would part company with the Five Eyes, and challenge the PRC from a position of moral strength. But the chances of that happening under a Labour government are pretty close to zero.</i><br /><br />Diplomacy was developed because countries have to try and get on with each other, small and large. The large ones are not as nice as elephants which as the saying goes, sit anywhere they want. The small ones like us, have to stand within a ball-shaped surveillance post as everyone wants a piece of us from every direction. No government, Labour or National, advised pragmatically with some morality topping, spouts in public as you have suggested. Though we need to have freedom to be more robust amongst ourselves and attempt quiet diplomacy if there is some desire for change and a desire to understand the nature of another country's zeitgeist.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-22325781702645327882020-07-28T11:08:06.417+12:002020-07-28T11:08:06.417+12:00Greg Wolf’s survey of European architectural class...Greg Wolf’s survey of European architectural classicism is very much in the latter day humanist tradition of trying to cut down and/or diminish this civilizational tradition, as part of anti anti-Imperialist/colonialist narrative that presently keeps its acolytes in stipends, academic make-work and morally ascendant virtue wallowing, by plucking gloriously groveling humility, atonement and defeat from the jaws of discredited old hegemonism and pride, arising out of a uniquely unprecedented and sustained period of victory, power, prestige, wealth, knowledge growth, elaborate institutional development and cultural efflorescence that lasted almost half a millennium…and leaving behind a stupendous, albeit an inevitably faulted legacy, that we call modern times.<br /><br />However, to keep things in perspective, until the rise and rise of Europe, there were plenty of other regions that could boast bigger and better at some time in their history. I am principally thinking China where the Forbidden City palace complex in Beijing was up till after WW2, three times the size of.its nearest European rival.<br /><br />However, while China was long unquestionably the largest economy in the world and boasted a very sophisticated culture that in some ways rivalled that of Europe until the Industrial Revolution, the Chinese mandarin rulers of this civilizational behemoth were humiliatingly overtaken by industrialized societies with relatively quite small populations that had embraced the enormous leverages of capitalism, which is something that for a variety of reasons they couldn’t and wouldn’t do, even when faced with regime annihilation…<br /><br />The fact is Greg that European capitalism has been an unrepeated and unrivalled singularity until the middle twentieth century, which enables you to be surrounded by a cornucopia of tools, facilities, health security and longevity that not even a Chinese emperor could have hoped to get.<br /><br />And speaking of emperors Greg, there are exquisite portraits of Ming emperors that you can see by browsing the internet, but they have an almost cartoon like quality about them when you compare them to the richly textured verisimilitude, control of light, perspective and capacity to project absolute power, of Hans Holbein’s portrait of Henry VIII, done at roughly the same time.<br /><br />And in that singular moment of European painting is encapsulated what it was about European society that made it not merely special, but world changing and fundamentally in advance of any of its neighbours in all respects of its operations…And I mean everything, humanist bad mouthing notwithstanding.<br /><br />I think post modernist cultural relativism is an aggressive form of cultural dementia that now needs to be taken to another place for some long overdue anthropological therapy, so that we can get back our now hijacked cultural space and see it objectively…free from gratuitous and defamatory attack that only serves to compromise it as a unifying force in an increasingly complex and potentially fissiparous multicultural society.David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-4653130134113094802020-07-28T11:06:20.109+12:002020-07-28T11:06:20.109+12:00Chris "There remains the same racist assumpti...Chris "There remains the same racist assumption that the West’s values and institutions are superior in every way..."<br />And there's a perverse undercurrent of contempt for Western Civilisation within the modern left (oikophobia as Sir Roger Scruton christened it) evident even in the institutions charged with the conveyance of it's values, history and knowledge.<br />I've copied below an interesting and relevant comment on this subject from a commentator on Quillette, C D Eastmannagle.David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-66736666472928877612020-07-28T07:55:30.219+12:002020-07-28T07:55:30.219+12:00@ Geoff Fischer: "New Zealand's very own ...@ Geoff Fischer: "New Zealand's very own Brenton Tarrant". Tarrant was not a New Zealander, he was an itinerant Australian. We are prohibited by the State from reading his own account of his motivations for his heinous crime. Nevertheless what little was reported in the local media immediately after the massacre suggested he was an eco-extremist who greatly admired the Chinese Communist Party's style of government. He also attacked members of a religion which embraces many races; the two are not synonymous. Perhaps we will get a clearer understanding of what happened in Christchurch on 15 March last year when the Royal Commission of Inquiry delivers its report. We are owed this at the very least.Odysseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04745489060434244478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-62185749973081327592020-07-27T16:00:49.267+12:002020-07-27T16:00:49.267+12:00I'm tired of the kneejerk western habit of suc...I'm tired of the kneejerk western habit of succumbing to the decades long US led bogeyman creation replete with faux concerns about Red menace, Domino Theories Moslem hordes, New Hitlers yaddyadda. This is nothing more than Big Power willy waving akin to the leadup to WW1, where declining empires jockeyed for influence with emergent ones. And look where that led.<br /><br />We on the left are well aware of the shortcomings of China and surely even you surely havent forgotten that it was the Greens under Norman that were at the forefront of protests when Xi visited during the Key Regime era..all the while the Govt business moguls and the Labour Party were wining and dining the visitors...on the other side of that screen of buses.Andrew Nicholsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-2070772457621154632020-07-27T13:55:56.206+12:002020-07-27T13:55:56.206+12:00Perhaps the CCP stands for the Chinese Civilisatio...Perhaps the CCP stands for the Chinese Civilisation PartyPatriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01509686441858091630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-51815476619628222862020-07-27T12:07:53.456+12:002020-07-27T12:07:53.456+12:00Hi GS
I accept that you may "never have come...Hi GS<br /><br />I accept that you may "never have come across anyone who claims that only white people are or can be racist except the lunatic fringe."<br /><br />The problem we face today is that the "Lunatic Fringe" as you so aptly describe them, are not the fringe anymore, but have gone mainstream. Critical Race Theory, or CRT is now the meta-narrative that is animating our universities, and large corporations. <br /><br />Below I have linked to a documentary that shows in stark terms how left leaning Dr. Bret Weinstein and his wife were forced out of Evergreen University in the USA - a liberal arts college for the 'crime' of refusing to admit their inherent with racism: Now I can tell you with absolute certainty that CRT is the lens through which major corporations including Microsoft, CISCO, LinkedIn and many many others, now understand human relationships in the workplace. <br /><br />Furthermore, I can also advise you that in the 10 ten most popular books on Amazon, includes such gems as : White Fragility by<br />Robin DiAngelo, (who features in the videos) and coming in at number 11 this week: How to Be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi<br /><br />CRT is the new orthodoxy.<br /><br />The videos below are reasonably short, use actually footage from the University meetings and will be shocking for anyone who has not been to university in the last 20 years.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2WeWgcSMk<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0W9QbkX8Cs<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vyBLCqyUes<br />Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-41187923182072647202020-07-27T12:03:11.296+12:002020-07-27T12:03:11.296+12:00Race or the history of engagement with China is no...Race or the history of engagement with China is not a basis for the current concerns.<br />I don't find it surprising at all that leftists are concerned; apart from the incursions/indignities/oppression/genocide being perpetrated by Beijing there's the ongoing assault on the pay, prospects and power of western workers thanks to China's mercantilist, protectionist policies. Wall street and the Party of Davos have profited handsomely from their demise and are deeply opposed to Trump's realignment for that reason. David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-25047427261535335932020-07-27T11:30:14.537+12:002020-07-27T11:30:14.537+12:00"While it's fashionable to cast whites as..."While it's fashionable to cast whites as systemically racist, and pretend that racism is unique to whites".<br /><br />For Christ's sake Brendan, the system is systemically racist. It's all in the name. And it definitely is a thing in many societies not just white ones. If you'd studied some of that sociology you conservatives purport to despise you might not make such broad generalisations. And I've never come across anyone who claims that only white people are or can be racist except members of one lunatic fringe or another. Sigh.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-54989074043196538622020-07-27T11:27:14.505+12:002020-07-27T11:27:14.505+12:00"He or she is saying that "the Chinese&q..."He or she is saying that "the Chinese" (implying all Chinese) are just as racist as the most intransigent racist to be found anywhere in Europe, Britain, the United States of America, Australia or New Zealand. Presumably including New Zealand's very own Brenton Tarrant."<br /><br /><br />Er… No, it was exaggeration for effect.<br /><br />But even so, I've seen Chinese mothers snatch their kids out of my way in fear, and if you happen to be black and on public transport, many people don't like to sit next to you. I've talked to a number of black people in China, and people who don't know them oftem give them a wide berth. I've not seen this in New Zealand yet.<br />Obviously not all are like this, and there is a certain novelty value to be had being a foreigner in China, but there is certainly a hierarchy of foreigners in the eyes of many Chinese.<br />And the Chinese leadership as I've said, is extremely chauvinistic and has a tradition of being so.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-4720345813990448602020-07-26T18:33:20.481+12:002020-07-26T18:33:20.481+12:00Guerilla Surgeon: "the Chinese are just as ra...Guerilla Surgeon: "the Chinese are just as racist – if not more than <b>anyone</b> in the West."<br />He or she is saying that "the Chinese" (implying all Chinese) are just as racist as the most intransigent racist to be found anywhere in Europe, Britain, the United States of America, Australia or New Zealand. Presumably including New Zealand's very own Brenton Tarrant.<br />This is the kind of breath-taking claim which we have come to expect from the denizens of the New Zealand left as they flock to join President Trump in his campaign to take China down a notch or two.<br />If the New Zealand left was sincere in its professed concern for the Uighers, Tibetans and the people of Hong Kong, it would not stoop to racist smears on an entire people, and it would not be making common cause with the despicable Donald Trump. It would part company with the Five Eyes, and challenge the PRC from a position of moral strength. But the chances of that happening under a Labour government are pretty close to zero.Geoff Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00509885628971898371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-25052376126402168562020-07-26T15:43:50.478+12:002020-07-26T15:43:50.478+12:00Perhaps the Lefties of the West not opposing the ...Perhaps the Lefties of the West not opposing the deteriorating relationship between the U.S. and China still think like Stalin, who did not oppose the West's war against only partially "SociaLised" Germany in the hope of it leading to the destruction or substantial weakening of private enterprise based capitalism ?<br /><br />They apparently still don't know, that pure Socialism, - i.e. public ownership of all the means of production - is straightforward (dictatorial) State Monopoly Capitalism <br /><br />They don't acknowledge, that work alone without the saving and profitable utilization and ownership of capital can deliver only a pre-stone-age cave dwelling and hand-to-mouth survival based way of life.Jens Mederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17304734497662325275noreply@blogger.com