tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post6775258693547917924..comments2024-03-29T03:41:12.499+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: A Second Coming?Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-18416511985660678492011-02-07T20:29:03.311+13:002011-02-07T20:29:03.311+13:00A new left party would start to bring the centre t...A new left party would start to bring the centre to the left, and re invigourate left wing discourse, including a public discourse on privatisation, neoliberalism and free trade.<br /><br />Labour would be pushed into taking a position on free trade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-75932099688558200132011-02-06T23:23:33.670+13:002011-02-06T23:23:33.670+13:00The fact that "Altogether, the Far-Left parti...The fact that "Altogether, the Far-Left parties (Alliance, Workers Party, RAM – Residents Action Movement) attracted just 3,306 votes or 0.14 percent." does not mean that a new left party would receive that much, it just reflects the fact that people don't want to waste their vote. If, for instance, Hone was a part of such a party people would know they were not wasting their vote and you would see far greater than 0.14%.<br /><br />You just need to look at thestandard.org.nz to see there is a lot of support for a new left party from people who would otherwise vote/be involved with labour/greens: people who are not 'far left'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-10642477241692607432011-02-06T15:36:55.518+13:002011-02-06T15:36:55.518+13:00What was most interesting about that poll was the ...What was most interesting about that poll was the fact that only around less than half of the voters were querried after Key announced the privatisation plan. National might have dropped far more than that poll suggests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-24945181504826427642011-02-06T14:43:48.166+13:002011-02-06T14:43:48.166+13:00Did anyone see Hooton's writeup in the NBR thi...Did anyone see Hooton's writeup in the NBR this week. Apparently he names Bomber as a prime instigator in the formation of this new left party. <br /><br />No wonder Mr Bradbury actually dedicated a post to rebutting your rather derision opinion of his new party. <br /><br />Although once again Bomber has committed the sin of offering his 'opinion' on something that he has a direct interest in. Surely he would have learned after being outed for his contract work with Mr Hooton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-40312039619341068602011-02-06T09:25:53.179+13:002011-02-06T09:25:53.179+13:00Thanks Lew, someone had to ask! Chris, interesting...Thanks Lew, someone had to ask! Chris, interesting read which helps put issues into perspective.Lyn Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15554720672578319225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-57898850380415313412011-02-05T22:54:33.235+13:002011-02-05T22:54:33.235+13:00'Tis I, Lew. Though it's hard to believe I...'Tis I, Lew. Though it's hard to believe I was ever that slim - or had that much hair!Chris Trotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-45099768998638496442011-02-05T18:33:07.522+13:002011-02-05T18:33:07.522+13:00Chris, just one question from me about this very w...Chris, just one question from me about this very wise post. Excuse my ignorance, but are you that dashing young turk with the guitar?<br /><br />LLewhttp://www.kiwipolitico.com/index.php?author=27noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-36279109893295063572011-02-05T14:28:43.487+13:002011-02-05T14:28:43.487+13:00Chris, a very well written article. But the commen...Chris, a very well written article. But the comment above is right, the right is not supported by 60% of the population. The combined National, ACT and United Future party votes were still under 50% last election. The reason why the hold a large majority in terms of seats is flaws in MMP with wasted New Zealand first votes that were intended to prop up a Labour government, as well as other vote splitting factors such as the Pacific party and together arguably cost the centre-left up to 7 seats.<br /><br />AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-54881063428925863052011-02-05T12:26:51.726+13:002011-02-05T12:26:51.726+13:00Freed from Jim Anderton's conservative embrace...Freed from Jim Anderton's conservative embrace, the Alliance pirouetted gaily across the political stage to take up a new position in the area marked "Socialist - and proud of it!"<br /><br />Good on them. Just so long as they don't mind polling figures with a zero in front of them.Chris Trotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-20097633544483781342011-02-04T21:46:57.964+13:002011-02-04T21:46:57.964+13:00hey chris..seen the latest roy morgan poll...inter...hey chris..seen the latest roy morgan poll...interesting...<br /><br />http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4625/<br /><br />Support for Prime Minister Key’s National Party is 49% (down 6%)...New Zealand First 5.5% (up 1% — and now at their highest since mid 2008)wasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00824233303179876302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-2566043545341007642011-02-04T21:18:10.893+13:002011-02-04T21:18:10.893+13:00Fact. The great new - lets all roll up our sleeve...Fact. The great new - lets all roll up our sleeves and get together to build a better world - Alliance. was not quite big enough to assimilate Bill and his two or three mates. Those few little irritants had to be squashed like a bug on a window so as not to spoil the brave new world party. <br />Now the Alliance is about the same size as the PRG and equally damned by Chris Trotter as a far left threat. Help! Winston is starting to look sane.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-91712663043697231442011-02-04T21:00:35.485+13:002011-02-04T21:00:35.485+13:00Would Chris Carter stand under this banner?
Even ...Would Chris Carter stand under this banner?<br /><br />Even if he lost,he would collect three months redundancy salary as a defeated incumbent. $35,000 odd dollars - not to be sneezed at.<br /><br />kurtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-4975708435205121292011-02-04T19:03:45.225+13:002011-02-04T19:03:45.225+13:00Mr Trotter, the ONLY flaw in this otherwise excell...Mr Trotter, the ONLY flaw in this otherwise excellent article (of which I would never normally read) is: New Zealand is governed by a right-wing coalition supported by close to 60 percent of the electorate. <br /><br />Key is as socialist as the come. National have become, arguably, more left than labour as they have succeeded in implementing more empoverishing leglislation than labour ever did. <br /><br />But, good article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-39165120976648923462011-02-04T17:40:59.925+13:002011-02-04T17:40:59.925+13:00Mr Ttrotter, it's is a pleasure to read some c...Mr Ttrotter, it's is a pleasure to read some common sense analysis of MMP and the ratbag from Up North.Adolf Fiinkenseinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08045358863278087055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-72385329438105224952011-02-04T16:50:59.105+13:002011-02-04T16:50:59.105+13:00It was a pity - yes.
That a handful of people att...It was a pity - yes.<br /><br />That a handful of people attempted to free-ride on the efforts of others in an attempt to acquire a measure of political influence which they would never have been able to exercise under their own ideological banner.<br /><br />To top it all off, when confronted with the evidence of his own entryist intentions, Bill Logan pretended not to know what entryism was.<br /><br />Pathetic really.Chris Trotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-5214939644876724162011-02-04T15:16:56.651+13:002011-02-04T15:16:56.651+13:00Bill Logan versus the ordinary decent kiwis.
No c...Bill Logan versus the ordinary decent kiwis.<br /> No contest one would think. Except somehow Bad Bill and the brats spoiled everything. Chris you do self pity so well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-13791219521453030152011-02-04T12:23:15.079+13:002011-02-04T12:23:15.079+13:00I could imagine a New Left Party getting in on opp...I could imagine a New Left Party getting in on opposition to Free Trade and a Green Jobs program for full employment in Aotearoa.<br /><br />Essentially a social justice and environment position, that takes elements of the best parts of union, local sovereignty and environmental viewpoints and traditions. http://www.nznotforsale.org/ points out what the effects of more Free Trade would be to New Zealand<br /><br />Free Trade is a difficult issue for labour, but it is not for a New Left Party that is anti neoliberal, in more than rhetoric, and has a plan to rebuild the economy in a matter that is just and sustainable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com