tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post7085248960335431789..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: No Cookies! But Maybe The Balance Of Power: Why Kelvin Davis And The Labour Right Are So Scared Of Internet-Mana.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-36860174888535423622014-08-12T15:13:51.471+12:002014-08-12T15:13:51.471+12:00Perhaps, but you know what happens as soon as peop...Perhaps, but you know what happens as soon as people become Prime Minister, their popularity soars. Just look at Helen Clark's figures before and after. I can't think of a time when a successful Prime Minister has been dumped. Mind you I can't really be arsed checking :-).Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-36363726196768609432014-08-11T11:15:24.282+12:002014-08-11T11:15:24.282+12:00To Guerilla Surgeon: Yes they'll kiss his arse...To Guerilla Surgeon: Yes they'll kiss his arse at first, but they'll still be waiting for some stuff up down the track as they still hate him (hence my saying 12-16 months). If there's a few govt embarrassments & his popularity with the public stays low enough then they'll roll him mid way through the first term.thesorrow&thepitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-88355717278575803982014-08-10T18:05:11.054+12:002014-08-10T18:05:11.054+12:00How often does someone who's just won an elect...How often does someone who's just won an election get rolled by his caucus? Don't be bloody silly, if they think he can win elections they'll crawl over broken glass to kiss his arse :-).Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-56932133041919945402014-08-09T15:54:36.737+12:002014-08-09T15:54:36.737+12:00Perhaps this is your 2005 moment Chris? I can unde...Perhaps this is your 2005 moment Chris? I can understand all on the left hate Key & want him gone, & MMP is like a game of political tetras, which we'll have to see on election night how the blocks stack up. <br />However in 2005 all of us on the right wanted Clark gone, but considering what a complete wally Don Brash was it's safe to say the entire country dodged a bullet in 2005. <br />So lets say Cunliffe gets the numbers in terms of the left block, how would the next three years pan out Chris? <br />A PM who may likely have lost a large portion of his Labour list allies on election night due to the victories of Labour constituency MPs & hence further surrounded at cabinet by his enemies all plotting to roll him as PM. <br />A coalition which if NZ First gets back in (which guarantees Winston would be needed) may well after the honeymoon find that all their egos won't fit into the cabinet room.<br />That's before the elephant in the room is even addressed, who is the real David Cunliffe?<br />So far he's proven only that he'll always say to an audience exactly what they want to hear, telling socialists bread n roses, yet sending the message to the business community that Labour won't rock the boat. I can understand you're hopeful Cunliffe will provide the former but there's nothing to guarantee a govt under him would pan out that way. <br />End of the day if it happens you may well end up regretting Cunliffe becoming PM, even if he only is PM for 12 to 16 months.thesorrow&thepitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-51244717145160730782014-08-09T13:27:08.258+12:002014-08-09T13:27:08.258+12:00Point of order Your Honour! Isn't Labour Right...Point of order Your Honour! Isn't Labour Right more like Labour Left of Centre!?jhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-29103743318880525102014-08-09T09:01:10.954+12:002014-08-09T09:01:10.954+12:00Hee hee - some of these commentators on the right ...Hee hee - some of these commentators on the right are using very big words - I think they could take lessons from the Christchurch students - no obfuscation there!JanMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-14945274281481489572014-08-09T08:42:56.598+12:002014-08-09T08:42:56.598+12:00Actually Wayne, most of the left think of him as a...Actually Wayne, most of the left think of him as an arse who should never have been allowed into the country in the first place. But you sow the wind..... :-). I will admit though that most of us are enjoying the jolly up he's giving you people – out of sheer revenge :-). And if he has become a hero, it's largely because of you lot and the FBI :-). Oh schadenfreude :-). Haven't had so many laughs in years. Debbie, don't hold your breath waiting for statistics. :-)Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-59543550968438934692014-08-09T02:56:46.524+12:002014-08-09T02:56:46.524+12:00Aha, but of course. There was indeed another party...<i>Aha, but of course. There was indeed another party of triumphalist racial nationalism that claimed to be Left-wing....the National Socialists of Germany, the Nazis.</i><br /><br />Godwin's Law applies, of course.<br /><br />Internet-Mana is simply a bizarre marriage of convenience, but it is convenient for all involved, so it works. Good on them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-77216020511868044372014-08-08T22:06:55.104+12:002014-08-08T22:06:55.104+12:00The Daily Blog seems not to believe in freedom of ...The Daily Blog seems not to believe in freedom of speech.<br />Any comment that does not agree with them does seem to get deleted, I have noticed that too.<br /><br />Dotcom is a joke and he makes a dark stain upon our political scene. He is trying to buy freedom, and via our Parliament.So wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-38171508982337603482014-08-08T21:09:41.802+12:002014-08-08T21:09:41.802+12:00Barry, Im curious to know what examples of gain fo...Barry, Im curious to know what examples of gain for the Maori constituency from the past 6 years you can provide? As far as Im aware the health, income, educational and imprisonment statistics havnt improved of late?<br />pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727942156598555852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-91502262657343030982014-08-08T20:50:50.867+12:002014-08-08T20:50:50.867+12:00Mana started out as a raw nationalist firebrand pa...Mana started out as a raw nationalist firebrand party wedded to a Maori racial agenda.<br /><br />Since this was never going to have wide appeal it had to soften that agenda by trying to look softer and cuddlier to the wider poor and unemployed, which included Hone's 'white m'fers'<br /><br />Since its primary inception vision is racial/exclusivist/separatist Maori, the later cynical graft-on should fool no one, but it appears to.<br /><br />Into this mix strides a German squillionaire with a penchant for collectable cars, $30 million dollar homes and a self-indulgent livestyle that the nation's growing poor and unemployed couldn't begin to dream of.<br /><br />How could this unholy mix of ethnic national triumphalism and crass materialism have any unifying vision? How does it make any sense?<br /><br />Worse, how could anyone possibly see this 'Mad Hatters' lot as a 'party of the Left'??<br /><br />Aha, but of course. There was indeed another party of triumphalist racial nationalism that claimed to be Left-wing....the National Socialists of Germany, the Nazis.<br /><br />Alan<br /><br />Alan Rhodesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-78393094578707705532014-08-08T20:28:14.420+12:002014-08-08T20:28:14.420+12:00This part "of the rest of country" views...This part "of the rest of country" views with some dismay the way you and seemingly much of the Left is in thrall of KDC. You seem to see him as some magic elixer that will restore the socialist nirvana that was the original promise of New Labour.<br />Actually the Right has no expectation that the next govt lies in the hands of Kelvin Davis. We know perfectly well that if Labour, Greens and IM get 50%, they form the govt. And driving in The North tells me that Hone is going to win. He has has at least 100x more hoardings than Kelvin!<br />So the Nats are operating on the obvious formula of the Nats and the likely supporters of the Centre-Right getting 50% or more of the vote. That means in a spectrum, ACT, National, UF, NZF and Conservative (maybe the last two could have their order reversed), getting the necessary numbers.<br />No trickery, just going out and doing the work to win the votes.Wayne Mapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906396523791648270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-9709752284171630122014-08-08T14:33:28.132+12:002014-08-08T14:33:28.132+12:00(Chris - I hope you dont delete these comments bec...(Chris - I hope you dont delete these comments because you may not like them - like you or someone did when I commented on an article of yours on the daily blog website - so sense of looking at the facts over there.)<br /><br />I have often wondered where the idea comes from that only parties of the left will ever help maori as you suggest in Para 2. I would venture to say that the reality is more along the lines that parties of the left have done very little for Maoris in the last 100 years. There have been the endless parade of maori seat MPs who – other than Ngata – have achieved what seems to be absolutely nothing for maori. Yet in the last 10 years more progress has been made with initiatives within maoridom than was achieved in the previous 100 years.<br /><br />This is just one of the more visible problems that Labour has. They want the maori vote but what evidence can they offer to support the request? Labour is so diverted by such silly things like the man ban (ie: identity politics) that they have problems remembering what they stand for.<br />Barrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-38548165494500738772014-08-08T14:31:14.707+12:002014-08-08T14:31:14.707+12:00Can we have another Poll on whether we want MMP af...Can we have another Poll on whether we want MMP after a couple of years of such a Government? Particularly after a Labour, or Green, Minister says no to extraditing KDC and grants him citizenship.alwynnoreply@blogger.com