tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post8123896708884120596..comments2024-03-28T21:25:08.138+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: It’s A Question Of Values, My Friends: What The Greens Must Do To Survive.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-76765274863996806942017-09-05T09:45:49.811+12:002017-09-05T09:45:49.811+12:00Thanks for this post, Chris. Here is some more rel...Thanks for this post, Chris. Here is some more relevant information for you/your readers on the matters raised.<br /><br />Hugh Macdonald is still directing films about and for New Zealand and New Zealanders - see http://hughmacfilm.co.nz/about-hugh-macdonald.html for what he has done since being involved in making the world's first Green TV ad - and http://hughmacfilm.co.nz/no-ordinary-sheila.html for his latest film, 'No Ordinary Sheila', currently screening in North Island venues in the NZ International Film Festival and due to go on nation-wide general release from October 19.<br /><br />I am the producer of that film - and I was also the last paid employee of the Values Party (1978-79). I can thank Norman Smith (Values organiser extraordinaire) for advising me of that job - and also for introducing me to Hugh following the Values Party 40th reunion in 2012, where I was asked to give the after-dinner speech on 40 years of Green politics. This was based not only on my personal involvement in both Values and the Greens, but also on having studied them and written a Ph.D. thesis on them ('From earth's last islands: The global origins of Green politics.' The whole thesis is on-line at http://researcharchive.lincoln.ac.nz/handle/10182/1905) At the reunion I saw the 1972 Values ad for the first time, and like Chris I thought it was very powerful, and also that (with a bit of tweaking and of course being filmed in colour) it would be just as relevant and powerful today. Hugh and I got to talking about how he makes films, and before I knew it I was making them with him!<br /><br />Meanwhile, the Green Party (which I helped found and for which I worked so hard - with the late Rod Donald and others - to grow and get into Parliament) has in the past two years lost its way - in leadership, policy and vision, and in the creativity and nous required to communicate a unique vision and original policies in captivating ways. Whether and how it can recover will be up to the many good people who still understand and support that vision, and want to continue to work in or with the party that was founded to bring it to Parliament. And that will depend on the Party having an effective 'recovery' process post-election to get it back on track. As Chris correctly says, there is no 'core vote' for any party that cannot articulate in words and images, and exemplify in deeds, their core political vision.<br /><br />Christine DannChristinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03580988426800191159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-90411646549447780462017-08-30T10:32:27.700+12:002017-08-30T10:32:27.700+12:00Hello Tony Brunt
I followed Values for decades. ...Hello Tony Brunt<br />I followed Values for decades. And now following those values as they continue in the Greens but expanded to include consideration of the importance of healthy people as well as a healthy environment.<br /><br />This is a comment from a past interview, NewsHub 1/6/2012 relevant to now:<br /><i>Values Party co-founder Tony Brunt says that the foundation of the party was a response to the political culture in New Zealand in 1972.<br />“We were idealistic extremists some people called us, yes, we were, but it was a response to the barren and miniaturist political culture that existed in NZ at that time,” he says.<br /><br />Archive footage shows Mr Brunt speaking passionately of the party’s founding principles.<br />“The mediocre and shallow goals of Labour and National have just about killed the faculty of imagination of the average New Zealander,” he says in the footage.</i><br />http://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/forty-years-since-first-green-party-2012060121<br /><br />If anyone has a flash memory of Damn the Dam from the early days - if you put that up on TradeMe you will see a number of John Hanlon CDs. Good for remembering then and inspiring now.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-24438163952373559782017-08-27T08:39:57.027+12:002017-08-27T08:39:57.027+12:00To: Tony Brunt.
My sincere apologies for misspell...To: Tony Brunt.<br /><br />My sincere apologies for misspelling your name, Tony. It will be corrected immediately.<br /><br />Oh, and thank you for 1972.<br /><br />You changed my way of looking at the world.Chris Trotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-5860111826718845462017-08-26T15:25:30.344+12:002017-08-26T15:25:30.344+12:00Ha Anonymous is Norman Smith!!! also John Hoyle is...Ha Anonymous is Norman Smith!!! also John Hoyle is the other person in your photo above with Bailey Watson (Died c. 1992)and Rob RithieB'art Hommehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02247026300926791216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-16890906858886802752017-08-26T14:39:07.174+12:002017-08-26T14:39:07.174+12:00Patricia
The most important thing in the world...Patricia<br /> The most important thing in the world is people from the point of view of people. From the point of view of the planet and every other form of life on it not so much.<br />D J SDavid Stonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-53353032283143213922017-08-26T14:11:51.713+12:002017-08-26T14:11:51.713+12:00Nice. Good points. Agree. Small thing: I know I wa...Nice. Good points. Agree. Small thing: I know I was quite blunt back in those days, but an 'r' not n 'l', thanks Chris. Tony Bruntnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-83481623886259457192017-08-26T13:14:29.484+12:002017-08-26T13:14:29.484+12:00Those were the days, good memory or good insider k...Those were the days, good memory or good insider knowledge Chris. As the notionally designated Chief Organiser for the 72 election, I had blatantly misled the then D-G of Broadcasting Major-General McKinnon (and father of Don)by advising him we already had 30 plus candidates and wanted TV time on a pro rata basis, and threatened to take out a court injunction if this was not forthcoming, and so stuff up the TV shedule for political advertisements. (we ended up with 42).<br />Be careful what you wish for because we were given about 20 minute slots,but nothing to put in anhd no money. Then like the cavalry over the hill came Hugh, Rob and others asking "can we please make your TV ad?" Can you what!!! And so, using the resources of the National Film Unit where they worked (now it can be told) and with them each putting in some money, the ad was made. As a nice closing of the circle, for the Values Party 40th re-union held alongside the Greens annual conference which I also organised a couple of people offered to film the event and duly did so - let's hear it again for Rob and Hugh. Norman Smith Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-48033820423366580912017-08-26T13:01:56.456+12:002017-08-26T13:01:56.456+12:00Rob Ritchie is accompanied by Bailey Watson (RIP) ...Rob Ritchie is accompanied by Bailey Watson (RIP) and ??? People are more important than progress. may as well include profits and petrol eh? Brilliant ad. The world's first green party standing in a national election.B'art Hommehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02247026300926791216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-42992090363945641622017-08-26T10:58:35.336+12:002017-08-26T10:58:35.336+12:00He aha te mea nui o te ao? He tangata, he tangata,...He aha te mea nui o te ao? He tangata, he tangata, he tangata. What is the most important thing in the world? It is the people, it is the people, it is the people.Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01509686441858091630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-51327512021856677722017-08-26T08:56:48.874+12:002017-08-26T08:56:48.874+12:00jh, I too joined the Green Party some years ago bu...jh, I too joined the Green Party some years ago but am no longer a member due to the points you made. The values party was formed when people had an understanding of the "population bomb", which has not been defused; instead the fuse has been lengthened while bomb has gotten bigger by humans living in ever greater planetary overdraft.<br />NZs saving grace is its low population density, its relatively peaceable and urbane society and its distance from the mess that is the rest of the planet. The first 2 of have been slowly but surely eroding away over recent years and the last would be a major disadvantage if the former 2 were destroyed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-70473548213806023832017-08-25T21:28:23.577+12:002017-08-25T21:28:23.577+12:00But could not "people are more important than...But could not "people are more important than progress" lead to a loss in the quality of life unless it also limits the quantity of life ?Jens Mederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10371374720779147859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-53137873950521719922017-08-25T13:05:15.899+12:002017-08-25T13:05:15.899+12:00I thought the greens were already back up to 7 or ...I thought the greens were already back up to 7 or 8%?Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-15418329418524989442017-08-25T13:01:16.699+12:002017-08-25T13:01:16.699+12:00I joined the Greens after looking at the way the w...I joined the Greens after looking at the way the world was changing:<br />From The Boston Globe 2004 - New zealand at A Crossroad<br /><i>Up the road in Queenstown, nature is in full flight.<br />Queenstown advertises itself as "The Adventure Capital of the World," where you can bungy jump, heli-ski, jet-boat, or sky-dive. The confines of the modest town can no longer accommodate the throng of thrill-seekers. Soaring mountains still fringe the lake, but condos are creeping along the shore, a snake of traffic clogs the road into town, and Louis Vuitton has set up shop along with Global Culture, a clothes store.<br />If your idea of a holiday is a seething mass of cars and people, topped off by a cacophony of helicopters, Queenstown may be for you. Otherwise, it serves only as a warning of the perils of overdevelopment.</i><br />However, I found that "Anti-immigration feeling has no place in the Green Party" (therefore numbers don't matter). They're position is globaiist (migration is neutral world-wide). I also found that Pakeha were like people holidaying at Rarotonga. Maori culture was an uber culture; hapu wouldn't do a deal with a property developer - (yeah right). Metiria Turie supported ownership of the foreshore and seabed. When you look at things today there are "buses holding 50 people" coming up to fish for crabs on Uretiti and Ruakaka beaches. Is it any wonder Maori never took off with the Greens (except in academia that is)?jhnoreply@blogger.com