tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post8252256670188153811..comments2024-03-29T11:07:51.893+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: “Let’s Tax This?” – “Hell, Yeah!”Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-78243100708612799382017-08-18T11:51:00.801+12:002017-08-18T11:51:00.801+12:00Well, carlos e
If the economy's performing so...Well, carlos e<br /><br />If the economy's performing so well that we don't need to raise more taxes, let's just spend whatever's necessary on all those areas of obvious social and infra-structual shortfall and then print money.<br /><br />Is that what you mean? No, I didn't think so.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50537661329742206122017-08-18T11:44:38.015+12:002017-08-18T11:44:38.015+12:00Kat
I'm, like you, on the guy's side.
B...Kat<br /><br />I'm, like you, on the guy's side. <br /><br />But I was sitting there waiting bated breath for figures that meant something to me, as I'm not a farmer and barely know one end of a cow from another. <br /><br />My wife has since told me that RNZ's Rural Report has given an approximate breakdown of what it would cost a single family Canterbury farm. It seems to be lot but not, I would have thought, prohibitive.<br /><br />As a voter, I need to know this, so as to weigh up the oncoming National assault on Labour's expenditure plans.<br /><br />There's a UK politician called David (now Lord)Owen of whom it was once said that he'd rather win an argument than win a friend. NZ Labour needs to do both and exasperation without adequate explication is not the way.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-75485078778440160862017-08-18T01:07:49.270+12:002017-08-18T01:07:49.270+12:00I doubt many people watch The Nation anyroad. Or c...I doubt many people watch The Nation anyroad. Or care as much as you think about water. Even if they should. And they are aware it was Labour that created Fonterra and its near monopoly.<br />Anyway, economics 101. Which the average voter does know some of and is mostly what determines their voting as it happens.<br />Chris you do not need to raise taxes if your economy is growing so well as it has been for years, and employment is up. More and more tax just flows in, and less welfare is needed, hence the surpluses with more to come, as long as the ship is not shoved off course by a daft government. Helen and her nerdy-before-it-was-cool Christ's College boy finance man knew that. A most infamous Old Boy.<br /><br />The government is spending heaps, with even more planned. You and Kat shouting 'crisis' or 'multiple crises' does not wash with the majority.<br />I know you hope for a real crisis but there isn't one.<br />The only hope for change currently is if the media plus smiley can pump up an imagined crisis and/or a dreamy hope for an even better future led by the new kid on the block.<br />Not impossible but it would not be based on reality. Yet these are strange times abroad. I still think that makes it just as likely NZ with think 'better not mess with the good we got'.carlos enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-76245624282533450322017-08-17T21:05:46.820+12:002017-08-17T21:05:46.820+12:00Victor, I would disagree and say that David Parker...Victor, I would disagree and say that David Parker came across as genuine, clearly putting the facts on the table. His exasperation at the mindless nonsense spouted by National and its supporters could be misinterpreted by those not entirely cognizant of the policy. Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-78537684218223826982017-08-17T15:31:46.358+12:002017-08-17T15:31:46.358+12:00Chris
Whilst I agree with the main thrust of your...Chris<br /><br />Whilst I agree with the main thrust of your argument, I don't think David Parker made a very good case for Labour's water policy when on "The Nation".<br /><br />Talking in cubic metres or whatever might mean something to the farming community, although it's not going to persuade more than a few handfuls of them to vote Labour.<br /><br />But it means nothing to an impractical townie such as myself, who wants to know approximately how much it will cost the average Waikato cocky and how much more his cousin in Canterbury might need to pay. <br /><br />You may say this doesn't concern townies, other than in terms of the knock-on to food prices. But it's going to become part of National's overall taxation mantra. So the credibility or otherwise of this policy is part and parcel of Labour's claim to competency.<br /><br />And, yes, I appreciate that it's way too early to cite firm figures. So state maximums and tell the public that you hope it will be a lot lower. <br /><br />Remember what Auntie Helen said about not promising more than you can deliver but delivering more than you promise.<br /><br />In lieu of this sort of approach, Mr Parker came across as smug, soignee and arrogant.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-30176631455073669642017-08-16T20:34:08.021+12:002017-08-16T20:34:08.021+12:00Not one for posting links but if this is indicativ...Not one for posting links but if this is indicative of how Jacinda Ardern operates politically then we may have a four term PM in the making here.<br /><br />https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95851741/jacinda-ardern-in-conversation-with-undecided-voters-over-dinner<br />Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-67054518640419300522017-08-16T18:39:07.569+12:002017-08-16T18:39:07.569+12:00"Let's Do This" is so far open to th..."Let's Do This" is so far open to the universe for interpretation . I see you are making the most of it's unlimited possibilities Chris.<br /> In the end though it can only mean what the labour party caucus has already decided.<br />D J SDavid Stonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-53189578810199466362017-08-16T12:12:11.993+12:002017-08-16T12:12:11.993+12:00It is also quite possible, however, that they have...It is also quite possible, however, that they have suggested to the Green Party, on the quiet, that the latter should not push their equity for beneficiaries policy too hard.mikeshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50304573712386603522017-08-16T12:09:20.385+12:002017-08-16T12:09:20.385+12:00Why not ask National whose pockets the money they ...Why not ask National whose pockets the money they are throwing around before the election is coming out of. Why not ask National about where the millions Nick Smith has targeted to clean up rivers over the never never is coming from. Its time National was asked to show us the money. They can't and that's why they never do anything. <br /><br />National are just managers and hopeless ones at that. Labour are the agents of change.<br /><br />Time for a big change. Katnoreply@blogger.com