tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post8416959748455506580..comments2024-03-29T03:41:12.499+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: The Politics Of Public Service Broadcasting.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-48105499500175878742018-04-05T09:44:10.303+12:002018-04-05T09:44:10.303+12:00Unfortunately Victor most humour dates quite rapid...Unfortunately Victor most humour dates quite rapidly. At the moment I'm addicted to Mock the Week, but if I'm still alive in 20 years I won't find it that funny probably. Though to be honest, if I'm still alive in 20 years I probably won't find much very funny. :)Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-36921110795375058662018-04-04T13:39:22.469+12:002018-04-04T13:39:22.469+12:00GS
No-one reared on Hancock, the Goons or 'Ro...GS<br /><br />No-one reared on Hancock, the Goons or 'Round the Horne' can be all bad.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23awaAOhzd8<br /><br />There's clearly no hope for either of usVictornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-15533231744084473192018-04-04T12:38:33.696+12:002018-04-04T12:38:33.696+12:00I haven't seen a lot of comment about the way ...I haven't seen a lot of comment about the way that Radionz is looking for its own mostly political, news with OIAs. They are asking questions and trying to illustrate to us what sort of country and government we have and being pro-active about things. That's why they get called left weing no doubt. Now the boot is on the other foot perhaps the wings will change when bearing criticism.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-47343963482825324912018-04-04T07:53:06.252+12:002018-04-04T07:53:06.252+12:00https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/dan-rat...https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/dan-rather-thoroughly-dismantles-sinclair-broadcastings-orwellian-propaganda<br /><br />A powerful statement about the press from Dan Rather.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-4308899946540079262018-04-03T18:21:11.679+12:002018-04-03T18:21:11.679+12:00sumsuch
Government, public broadcasting always has...sumsuch<br />Government, public broadcasting always has someone complaining that it is dull, stuffy etc. But it acts as a base point that others can fly above.<br />I don't see them being excessively po-faced, just trying to keep a balance on things. They can say simple swear words like bugger and bloody without washing their mouths out with soap. (That happened to me at kindergarten - don't know what I said.) Sensitive matters get talked about, usually intelligently. <br /><br />Take Radionz and nurture it please, suggest sometimes, complain sometimes - to them - but don't moan too much or someone might use your negatives to fuel the RW narrative - the gummint can't do anything well. <br /><br />They will say give it to the creativity of private business. They can weave their magic like the Grimm's fairy tale of weaving straw into gold. (Wikipedia says that researchers have found it might be 4,000 years old.) But the gold I want is news and information and creative stuff that is as good and as near truth as possible, anything else is fool's gold. <br /><br />I admit I do have a gripe though. Hearing about every disastrous event in the USA drives me up the wall, and I am height sensitive. But that can be justified as news to be recorded. What is OTT is getting the minute to minute reports of everyone's impressions and feelings and hearing the local Sheriff and wiseguy commentators details. Spare me the details. Fill that time with some interesting business and political info from Sandinavia, Ireland, India, Brazil and China - the BRICS that are populous and doing and thinking things we should know about.<br /><br />Do you know that Argentina has had much of its precious agricultural land washed away in a huge flood because of ignorant, stupid agricultural corporate practices and its major export the soya bean crop could be munted? <br />https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/01/argentina-new-river-soya-beans<br /><br />It is time that news was not parcelled up into separate packages, ie crime and disasters, agriculture, business and finance etc, arts and creativity, English speaking and a narrow arrow slit for all the rest. There is so much that we need to know for attempted intelligent decision-making.<br /><br />greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-91961606831231786422018-04-03T12:23:35.481+12:002018-04-03T12:23:35.481+12:00Portia faces life? What about aunt Daisy? Those we...Portia faces life? What about aunt Daisy? Those were truly awful days, except that they did have those brilliant English comedy and quiz shows on. The Goons, Hancock's half-hour, the Navy Lark, Round the Horne – a tradition that still continues today with the brilliant Mock the Week, HIGNFY, and 8 out of 10 Cats. That was their saving grace in my youth, because I thought national radio was stuffy and boring. And they probably were compared to today. Funny, I'm just reading a biography of Hancock. I regard him as one of the best if not the best comedian ever – yet he was a real prick. I hope Dara O'Briain (my latest comedic hero) is as nice as he seems. :)Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-55692657857425918462018-04-03T12:11:43.755+12:002018-04-03T12:11:43.755+12:00I really wish that this government would grow some...I really wish that this government would grow some balls and tell the public sector bosses, (all those appointees from Nationals regime like Richard Griffin) who is boss.<br /><br />Regardless of the process, protocol etc broken by Hirschfeld and Curran one thing should be made clear. And that is that the government are the boss, not the public "servants". Time to harden up and shoot a few of them very publicly. Sends a message.NickJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-21435113116882867912018-04-03T12:08:26.765+12:002018-04-03T12:08:26.765+12:00GS@8.26
Spot on.
It's difficult for any mai...GS@8.26 <br /><br />Spot on.<br /><br />It's difficult for any mainstream journalist to advance his/her career with a reputation for telling porkies, particularly when working for an organisation that has a registered business address where it can be sued.<br /><br />UK tabloids and some US cable channels obviously work to a lower standard than many other news purveyors. Even so, there's a practical limit to the lies even they can tell.<br /><br />Apart from that, the main problem with the MSM is what it fails to tell you rather than what it actually says. <br /><br />I wish I could make that limited defence of much "alternative" media or, for that matter, the paid media of some illiberal governments. Alas, I can't. <br /><br />It's seriously worrying that there are apparently sensible people who give them a credence that they don't give to professionally-edited journalism.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-11711668828547203802018-04-02T22:13:22.445+12:002018-04-02T22:13:22.445+12:00I remember Bill English telling us to take RNZ'...I remember Bill English telling us to take RNZ's rationing along with the rest of NZ, 10 years ago or so. Also remember his minimal recognition of Jim Anderton on his death. The most social-democratic of the Right...won't admit where the spring of that comes from.<br /><br />It would have helped National if private radio could have stepped up to NatRad's standards. Newstalk ZB? Once you're over your laughter.<br /><br />I listen to NatRad 5-6 hours a workday and find it a little dull and tiresome, handicapped as it is by the pieties of being the national broadcaster and keeping to the absolute truth. Transistor radios outside only pick up AM well, and so the alternatives in my area are Racing, Newstalk ZM and a happy clappy Christian station -- no choice. Not enough of the exuberance of voices which is the great strength of radio and makes we, the living, superior to the wits of history.<br /><br />How vital the National Programme was in representing us in the 80s and 90s. But that was when the liberal elite remembered where they came from. Since then NatRad has represented the movement in the mind of that elite. That is, their self-satisfied separation from the people. <br />sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-44141622697904390982018-04-02T13:23:24.418+12:002018-04-02T13:23:24.418+12:00One further thought on RNZ.
It should never have ...One further thought on RNZ.<br /><br />It should never have been a case of Campbell OR 'Scary Mary'. We need them both!Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-10373860604101456252018-04-02T13:15:33.796+12:002018-04-02T13:15:33.796+12:00GS and greywarbler
Radio is ultimately about conv...GS and greywarbler<br /><br />Radio is ultimately about conversation. The presenter may seek to shape the conversation and even ask awkward questions but, unlike with a print story, the "auter" theory doesn't apply. <br /><br />Things to be avoided are a presenter hogging the conversation or engaging in lengthy and ponderous meshes of subordinate clauses, which are the antithesis of good communication and may just indicate a ponderousness of mind. <br /><br />It's also, of course, important to listen carefully to what guests are saying and to keep concentrating while they're speaking. That way, you can often avoid the need to keep asking the same question. <br /><br />A broad knowledge of the world beyond New Zealand is also required, especially when interviewing guests from overseas.<br /><br />I've already indicated the names of some star broadcasters who clearly understand these requirements. I'll leave you to judge for yourselves whether there are others who might, with reference to these criteria, need replacing. <br /><br />I would add that there's no shortage of skilled broadcasters in New Zealand. It would be good if more of them could have a chance to show their worth.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-6928063597947192822018-04-02T11:42:53.018+12:002018-04-02T11:42:53.018+12:00I've been listening to RNZ pretty much all of ...I've been listening to RNZ pretty much all of my 60 years on the planet. From 'Portia Faces Life' & 'Doctor Paul' (hilarious), from Frank Muir to Kenneth Williams as a child, the brilliant Praire Home Companion to suckling my babies while feeding my own mind listening to Geoff Robinson, Brian Edwards,Kim Hill et al over the last 25 years. I'm amused that some here regard it as 'blue' when a 'blue' blog I visit sometimes calls it 'red radio'and its denizens regularly chastize it for lefty bias. I listen because it is ad-free, has great interviews and music...I learn stuff, am entertained & informed and I've never found anything else that does similar... daily. LW, RW, centrist board members come & go...don't care, it's a good fit for me. Hilary Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240590567749247083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-14305818121378952092018-04-02T08:26:37.234+12:002018-04-02T08:26:37.234+12:00"For diversity viewpoint you have to go outsi..."For diversity viewpoint you have to go outside the MSM to youtube."<br />Which is full of every half baked idea ever put out by some arse who wants fame or money. Whose audience is mostly consist of those who can't tell shit from clay as the old saying goes, and mostly consists of angry white males, who can't cope with the growing equality of nonwhite people, and or women.<br /><br />"Jordan Peterson is under attack for the way he links Jungian archetypes to religious truths"<br />Well, one of the reasons he is under attack is that his arguments are couched in such vague terms as to be unassailable. As soon as you would attack one of his statements, he says "Oh no it didn't mean that." He is almost as bad as Deepak Chopra talking about the isness of the oneness of the wellness or something.<br /><br />"On Youtube you can get the low down on race and genetics (Douglas Murray)"<br />You can make of it what you like, because Murray tends to leave out all the difficult stuff, the complexities that mean it's not quite as simple as he says. Which means his ideas can pretty well be dismantled – most of them anyway – without resorting to any moral cliffs at all.<br />Fuck me, there are times and I think that people should really have a lesson or two in logical thinking, and discernment, whether it be of science or fake news before they are allowed anywhere near YouTube. The thing about the MSM which is so readily dismissed by the whack-jobs who follow Alex Jones or Breitbart, is that it does have at least SOME commitment to telling the truth. The rest of it not so much.<br />There was a rumour going around that Faux news was banned in Canada, because Canada has laws about telling the truth in broadcasting. Anyone with any sense could check this and find out that wasn't true. Many people didn't bother. It isn't true. Pity.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-28569719168679138762018-04-02T06:36:28.900+12:002018-04-02T06:36:28.900+12:00Wayne, read some Gramsci.Wayne, read some Gramsci.Lennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-79331404706869504312018-04-01T16:17:24.998+12:002018-04-01T16:17:24.998+12:00Perhaps Victor you could indicate in what way you ...Perhaps Victor you could indicate in what way you would have Nine to Noon change. What is deficient? Coulc you give an example of who we could listen to who has the approach and depth and breadth of understanding to purvey the material in the way that you want to hear?<br /><br />I understand that Voyager's comment referred to TVNZ. I might agree if I still watched and knew TV. Radionz is perhaps still quite good perhaps?greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-1793229047680346212018-04-01T16:12:43.872+12:002018-04-01T16:12:43.872+12:00" radical overhaul of its 'Nine to Noon&#..." radical overhaul of its 'Nine to Noon' slot, along with recruitment of a new presenter who (this time around) understands the difference between radio and print journalism."<br /><br />Hi Victor, would you care to elaborate on that?Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-32206861113444037372018-04-01T15:38:57.278+12:002018-04-01T15:38:57.278+12:00Its pretty cheeky of you Chris to post about the C...Its pretty cheeky of you Chris to post about the Conservative treatment of Scrimgour and ignore the offenses of the succeeding Labour govt under Fraser. Read this link for a fuller examination of the times.<br />https://teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/4s16/scrimgeour-colin-graham<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-35937552688696925962018-04-01T14:08:12.676+12:002018-04-01T14:08:12.676+12:00You can't base broadcasting on what political ...You can't base broadcasting on what political parties want. They didn't earn the right. It needs to be recognised that broadcasting in the modern age is not democratic when powerful interests divide up territory. <br />The general public are stereotyped as in "go ahead caller" - see how dumb they are; see how clever we are?jhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-12359898368134986892018-04-01T14:00:22.115+12:002018-04-01T14:00:22.115+12:00For diversity viewpoint you have to go outside the...For diversity viewpoint you have to go outside the MSM to youtube. Look at the meteoric rise of Jordan Peterson. Yet Jordan Peterson is under attack for the way he links Jungian archetypes to religious truths (the resurrection of Christ is a perfect metaphor).<br /> On Youtube you can get the low down on race and genetics (Douglas Murray) and make what you will of it without the thought police breathing down your neck telling you you are about to fall over a (moral) cliff.<br />.......<br />The authority of those behind our media outlets is the problem. In government we have embedded ideology in the Human Rights Commission and throughout government an <i>institutionalised public discourse</i> that is tyrannical, backward and out of step. Take biculturalism, for example. It has given existential legitimacy exclusively to radical viewpoints that (for example) place Maori lack of achievement at the feet of Europeans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-53064876479682507022018-03-31T15:51:32.622+13:002018-03-31T15:51:32.622+13:00Simmer down, Wayne
Surely what Chris is talking a...Simmer down, Wayne<br /><br />Surely what Chris is talking about is a resurrection and extension of public service broadcasting as per the Reithian BBC and its many successful imitators around the world, albeit with a mite more air time for "alternative" perspectives, investigative journalism etc. <br /><br />And if that's not what he's talking about, it's what he should be talking about.<br /><br />None of this is rocket science and it's broadly what New Zealand used to have, albeit in a form appropriate to a different epoch. <br /><br />In the last few years, RNZ has gone a short distance down the road to resuscitation, by recruiting some top-notch broadcasting talent, in particular, the broadly left-wing Mr Campbell and the broadly right-wing Mr Espiner.<br /><br />I would not be surprised to learn that the estimable Ms Hirschfeld has also had something to do with this long-overdue renaissance. Either way, I wish her well. <br /><br />Meanwhile, much remains to be done to rescue this once fine institution from the decay into which it's been allowed to slip, starting, maybe, with a radical overhaul of its 'Nine to Noon' slot, along with recruitment of a new presenter who (this time around) understands the difference between radio and print journalism. <br /><br />I suppose it's too much to ask that Kim Hill will return to a permanent slot, other than on Saturday mornings. But our household still lives in hope. <br /><br />For what it's worth, I've got an open mind as to whether and how far, RNZ should be developed into a multi-platform vehicle including 12 or 24 hour TV. <br /><br />In principle, it seems like a good idea. And, if not this, we will need another equally ambitious plan for arresting the decline of our mental public space and of our conversation as a nation.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-36212651398650901662018-03-31T06:54:58.539+13:002018-03-31T06:54:58.539+13:00Wayne, I pay my taxes too and constantly hear opin...Wayne, I pay my taxes too and constantly hear opinions from the Right on RNZ. That pisses me off not because they shouldn't be heard on RNZ but because there is no counterpoise. <br /><br />It appears to me that the sins of great grandfathers are visited upon the same people as before, just different actors. The Right are very good at teaching their children well.Nick Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-81186029325854121612018-03-30T21:51:15.230+13:002018-03-30T21:51:15.230+13:00RNZ National is Blue Radio. Richard Griffin is cha...RNZ National is Blue Radio. Richard Griffin is chair of the RNZ National board of governors. Richard Griffin's political colour is blue. the RNZ board is stacked with National's servants. Why should I be paying my taxes for daily doses of B grade hostile propaganda.<br /><br /> Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-51295692859736926562018-03-30T16:35:47.087+13:002018-03-30T16:35:47.087+13:00The dumbing down of TV NZ news started way before ...The dumbing down of TV NZ news started way before the 90s. I last watched it around 1987 where, as I remember there was a segment of about four minutes about a Russian sailor who broken his leg on a fishing boat off the coast and was transferred to hospital by helicopter. As far as news goes, completely irrelevant, but it made great TV watching the helicopter swooping around. It was one of the few road to Damascus moments I've ever had in my life. :) I instantly switched over to Radio New Zealand and have pretty much got my news from them since then. I almost stopped listening to radio New Zealand when one morning I think it was the first seven items on morning report were about crimes. I thought that if they were going to go with if it bleeds it leads to that extent, I have to give them up to but luckily they seem to have backed off just a tad. But they are the only new source I can think of in New Zealand which is both high-quality and relatively "fair and balanced". Unlike the channel that that slogan comes from. And when you think of all the right wing people they've employed in prominent positions.........Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-64259453477269016672018-03-30T14:40:37.787+13:002018-03-30T14:40:37.787+13:00And to think Winston swapped our popular, capable,...And to think Winston swapped our popular, capable, experienced and honest National govt for this inept omnishambles, with a leader who is proving to be nice, but weak, and without any political instinct. We are now a laughing stock on the world stage, and it seems, that corruption within the CoL is rife. How much longer must the electorate suffer this unelected carnage? Thanks Winston, for selecting a bunch of muppets to 'lead' NZ, and thanks, for going against MMP convention. How does he sleep at night?? Baubles and whiskey and no sense of what is right.<br /><br />Ron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-1325335984609662602018-03-30T14:01:02.205+13:002018-03-30T14:01:02.205+13:00Wayne Mapp
Your comment explains a lot about how y...Wayne Mapp<br />Your comment explains a lot about how you can constantly defend the indefensible, remaining inviolate from accusations of rorting and improper political behaviour and egregious policies likely to lead us to ruin.<br />Ignore history - goodness Scrim was 83 years ago. We can't apply anything from the past to today. Which means that the ancient idea of democracy is passe'! Learning and building on past experience and findings is how modern society has been built up and progressed. But that does not enter your field of vision apparently. <br /><br />And left wing politicians might interfere with the cosy pipelines between RW power and the disseminators of infotainment that have results like Parkinson's law of work; The amount of half-lies, scuttlebutt and petty personal attacks expand to fill the media waves and leave little time or intellect to examine important issues.<br /><br />You are a shrinking violet from today's reality, yesterday's wrong-headed political moves, and future-facing reasoned efforts to make changes so we can be partly equipped to face any future we may have. Look through your Camera Obscura, if you dare.greywarblernoreply@blogger.com