tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post8500077705388986676..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Such A Parcel Of Rogues In A Nation (For All Those True Scots Who Voted "Yes")Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-29223176782153324592014-09-23T12:02:49.969+12:002014-09-23T12:02:49.969+12:00The NO vote left me feeling gutted....but now?. It...The NO vote left me feeling gutted....but now?. It was almost worth it to see the treachery and dishonesty of Westminster exposed.<br />It is not possible to utter any criticism of the Tories et al that is as trenchant as the coals they publicly lay on their own heads.<br />Perhaps clouds do have a silver lining.Monettanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-33471928217655034252014-09-22T09:35:37.137+12:002014-09-22T09:35:37.137+12:00http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/...http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/21/what-now-scotland-young-yes-generationGuerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-1675270977735958042014-09-21T18:50:19.936+12:002014-09-21T18:50:19.936+12:00I'm relieved but sad at the same time.I'm relieved but sad at the same time. A Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03137605831419059657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-33997911935860812472014-09-21T18:13:21.867+12:002014-09-21T18:13:21.867+12:00GS
I assume that Scotland has some obligation tow...GS<br /><br />I assume that Scotland has some obligation towards the rest of Britain on the basis of all human inhabitants of the islands being members of the same species and therefore having obligations towards each other.<br /><br />Moreover, “Scotland”, “England” and “The United Kingdom” are all historical/cultural constructs rather than naturally occurring, eternal verities. This means that there’s nothing inherently wrong about Scottish independence. But nor is there anything inherently right about it. <br /><br />Personally, I favour reconstituting the Welsh-speaking Kingdom of Strathclyde, with maximal boundaries on the Mersey and the Clyde. It’s a totally arbitrary and subjective preference but based on solid historical precedent and no more subjective than a sense of Scottishness.<br /><br />To quote Burns: “A Man's a Man for A' That!”Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-42642345793566165642014-09-20T16:37:02.294+12:002014-09-20T16:37:02.294+12:00Manfred, you're assuming that the Scots have s...Manfred, you're assuming that the Scots have some obligation to the rest of Britain? Scotland as far as I know has only one Tory seat. It's voted solidly left for years, and has been ruled by Tory governments more often than not. Particularly if you regard new Labour as Tory which I do. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, and a "short sharp shock" :-) might infuse some backbone into the British Labour Party - such as it is.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-44013881676889221862014-09-20T15:12:02.392+12:002014-09-20T15:12:02.392+12:00The way I look at it, is that the "No" c...The way I look at it, is that the "No" campaign has saved England from the 100% certainty of a permanent Tory majority.<br /><br />Nice one, Gordon and Alistair!Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-23702722615865066692014-09-20T14:33:55.925+12:002014-09-20T14:33:55.925+12:00Great song- Perhaps also a requiem for the mana pa...Great song- Perhaps also a requiem for the mana party !!GJEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-8343953484447231042014-09-20T14:10:11.339+12:002014-09-20T14:10:11.339+12:00Are you saying Scots who voted to stay part of the...Are you saying Scots who voted to stay part of the union are not 'true' Scots, Chris? Because that's a rather contentious suggestion, and more typical of snivelling right wing division mongers.<br /><br />You're actually talking about my family there. My immediate family - father, brother, sisters, not some vague phoney folk ancestral affiliation. People who actually had to live with the consequences of their decision, not some smug blogger in New Zealand with a rose tinted view of Scotland.<br /><br />People can disagree with you, and still be honest and even patriotic.lurgeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08735536088030480119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-73637094516538259422014-09-20T13:54:53.920+12:002014-09-20T13:54:53.920+12:00But also the no vote means that England and Wales ...But also the no vote means that England and Wales can count on the Scottish votes when trying to unseat the Tories.manfredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05864320667710466331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-5503653705166620682014-09-20T11:32:59.033+12:002014-09-20T11:32:59.033+12:00I must confess I was hoping for a yes vote for a n...I must confess I was hoping for a yes vote for a number of reasons. Firstly it would have ensured that Scotland had left-wing governments for the foreseeable future, and might have done something sensible with their oil revenues. And secondly it might have forced "new" labour to take a second look at the stupidity of competing for votes in the centre when there are so many people out there who simply don't vote because there's no one to vote for. Speaking of that – off to vote if I can find someone to vote for :-).Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.com