tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post8951857507130382393..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Would You Like A Free Daily Newspaper With Your Free Lunch?Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-53781590085366280562012-10-18T11:50:51.960+13:002012-10-18T11:50:51.960+13:00A great blog that highlights two issues. Firstly, ...A great blog that highlights two issues. Firstly, the Ha'aretz situation highlights the power of wealth to influence in a capitalist society. I mean I could go on about the flaw of the supply/demand curve, the invisible hand limitations, the convenient exclusion of the unequal bargaining effect, the monopolistic influence of oligopolies, the psycho/social principles of authority and social conditioning, misuse of the agency agency principle by boards and CEOs etc; things that converge to create problems for Ha'aretz. But is the lack of finances really an obstacle? I'm a believer in that ignorance, lack of self awareness and creativity are the only true obstacles. The power of technology, the Internet has given the masses the power of media, a power previously the exclusive domain of the rich and privileged. That's why after reading the Herald and CNN version, I'd check out Aljazeera's version as well as quality blogs like yours Chris. It isn't money that determines quality, it's the integrity of the medium that does. Let passion do the rest.muglynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-7280967306894806062012-10-11T14:18:50.023+13:002012-10-11T14:18:50.023+13:00Anonymous@11.10
Israel is a very high tech orient...Anonymous@11.10<br /><br />Israel is a very high tech orientated country, and I suspect this is truer of its cerebral left-wingers than of much of the rest of the population.<br /><br />Would it matter if Ha'aretz disappeared as a hard copy publication? Most certainly. But not, I suspect, to a catastrophic extent.<br /><br />What's important to anyone who values peace, sanity and democracy in the Middle East is that columnists of the likes of Uri Avnery, Amira Hass and Gideon Levy don't get silenced. <br /><br />And, whatever the technology available, they will use it and won't be silenced! That you can rely on.<br /><br />Meanwhile, I ponder how effective a nationwide free newspaper is likely to be in influencing opinion.<br /><br />If you don't pay for it, you may not read it with any intensity or commitment. <br /><br />Moreover, the closed minds of the Israeli Right are already set in concrete. Would another organ of right wing opinion make all that much difference? <br /><br />Perhaps it's a pity that Israelis don't share the Anglo-Celtic taste for eating Fish and Chips out of newsprint, as there will be so much more of it available.<br /><br />So, yes, this is a doleful development. But there are far worse threats to Israeli democracy and to the peace of this pivotal region. And these threats loom much larger with the increasing likelyhood of a Romney presidency.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-51119162060086231702012-10-10T23:10:27.802+13:002012-10-10T23:10:27.802+13:00But if the left wing readers in Israel don't w...But if the left wing readers in Israel don't want to see the demise of their favourite left wing newspapers, they should simply continue to buy them as they did before. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-74582638867750157742012-10-10T20:17:25.945+13:002012-10-10T20:17:25.945+13:00The problem with traditional public broadcasting i...The problem with traditional public broadcasting is that hardly anyone listens to it. If a state broadcaster started doing proper news, viewers would jump ship to TV3 to get their fill of infotainment.<br /><br />When sufficient media choice exists, you can't make people watch something they don't want to. Real news involves telling people things they would often rather not hear. Infotainment does not. Infotainment wins.<br /><br />We live in a world of derp, Chris.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-25670695190812382072012-10-10T17:03:16.100+13:002012-10-10T17:03:16.100+13:00The notion that RNZ is in any sense left-wing defi...The notion that RNZ is in any sense left-wing defies any conceivable reality check. <br /><br />The station's choice of allegedly left wing commentators consists of Mike Williams or Josie Pagani. I rest my case!Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-27359191311965021232012-10-10T16:58:14.424+13:002012-10-10T16:58:14.424+13:00Jigsaw, are you kidding?
If Granny Herald with its...Jigsaw, are you kidding?<br />If Granny Herald with its majority of editorials, John Armstrong, John Roughan, Fran O'Sullivan, Paul Holmes, Kerre Woodham, is 'not' right leaning then you truly have a revelation for us all. RNZ also has the Morning Retort team with Simon Mercep, Nine to Noon with Kathryn Ryan,all right leaning presenters.<br /><br /> Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-18825247058851466862012-10-10T12:55:41.229+13:002012-10-10T12:55:41.229+13:00 A newspaper with a right wing point of view-now... A newspaper with a right wing point of view-now tht would be a different thing and would help to balance the huge left wing bias we get in the news at the moment. Did someone joke about RNZ being impartial? Presenters like Kym Hill and Chris Laidlaw make no attempt whatever to be anything but left wing and the idea of some differing opinions never seem to even occur to them.Jigsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906156865367357834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-59907841069607964822012-10-10T10:14:14.630+13:002012-10-10T10:14:14.630+13:00Actually, I was being a bit facetious.
Brendan wr...Actually, I was being a bit facetious.<br /><br />Brendan wrote: "If someone wants to invest in a politically biased newspaper and give it away, then good on them. They compete in the world of ideas just like everyone else."<br /><br />Substitute 'blog' for 'newspaper' and you have the main source of news analysis for my generation - free and reader-beware.<br />KNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-31440435001023629962012-10-10T07:27:26.914+13:002012-10-10T07:27:26.914+13:00Jim Mora neutral?? He's so middle class he mig...Jim Mora neutral?? He's so middle class he might as well live in Key land. Hahahahahaha. Actually I think apart from him and Ryan it's pretty neutral. For about 3 hours a day then.guerilla surgeonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-45838017038864513922012-10-09T21:54:13.899+13:002012-10-09T21:54:13.899+13:00Printed newspapers have lost their importance. The...Printed newspapers have lost their importance. Their primary audience is the over 60's, crossword puzzlers, sports enthusiasts and gossip followers. We will mourn the passing of newspapers as one of life's essentials only as we mourned the passing of horse-drawn transport and pre-decimal currency. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-28193799274956889452012-10-09T20:25:28.034+13:002012-10-09T20:25:28.034+13:00You jest? Radio New Zealand neutral!!! I listen ...You jest? Radio New Zealand neutral!!! I listen to it from time to time when I want to get a socialist spin on happenings and opinions.<br />However the interviews with interesting people are interesting.<br />AND it doesnt have inane advertisements.Get a Gripnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-81469059521527224782012-10-09T19:53:55.121+13:002012-10-09T19:53:55.121+13:00Chris
Can I suggest that there is no such thing a...Chris<br /><br />Can I suggest that there is no such thing as political neutrality when it comes to the media, and RNZ is a classic example of this, with the possible exception of Jim Moyer's afternoons show. Jim to his credit manages to maintain a neutral position, although some of his guests are highly suspect. :-)<br /><br />News papers the world over are in a financial death spiral instigated by the Internet.<br /><br />In NZ the newspapers have long ceased reporting facts and events, and are now simply journalistic opinion pieces. If I want opinion I can find it for free on the Internet. Your blog for example.<br /><br />If I want to advertise there is trademe, seek or ebay.<br /><br />If someone wants to invest in a politically biased newspaper and give it away, then good on them. They compete in the world of ideas just like everyone else.<br /><br />The newspaper is now just one of many sources of information, and I suspect one of the least trusted, just behind CNN or FOX news.<br />Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-4450580080523667082012-10-09T18:55:11.552+13:002012-10-09T18:55:11.552+13:00> (and that neutrality would need to be guaran...> (and that neutrality would need to be guaranteed by statute)<br /><br />Problem is everyone's biased to some degree - and both sides of the political spectrum seem to perceive a media bias against themselves. As a right-winger I know I certainly do - and I've heard similar things from the left as well.<br /><br />So how would you go about legislating for neutrality - to avoid us creating a state funded media outlet with its own partisan editorial direction?<br />Dionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11450278258690119277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-43666343398527589982012-10-09T18:26:16.034+13:002012-10-09T18:26:16.034+13:00Chris, have you looked at the share price for Fair...Chris, have you looked at the share price for Fairfax, they're doing a great job of running the company into the ground before Gina took a stake in the company. IF anything, she is trying to get them to be less partisan and not a left-wing rag so totally out of touch with its readers. Publishing papers that appeal only to the urbaninstas of inner city Melboure and Sydney doesn't seem to be a sound buisness model. I don't think you need to worry about The Australian fort the moment as Rupert Murdoch will happily support it using the profits from the other sections of the Fox Empire. <br />As to a publicly-funded newspaper, didn't the USSR try this with Pravda? You know very well that no legal statue would enure neurality as it is a very subjective concept. And why should the taxpayer subsidise a paper that they are not likely to read. Isn't it bad enough that we fund Radio Left Wing presently? No government paper, no government in the media. Chris this is a bad idea. Let the gentleman run his paper at a loss. It's his money he's spending and not the taxpayers as your idea would.Michael Wyndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09265843761031363440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-82372735655995537802012-10-09T18:21:35.856+13:002012-10-09T18:21:35.856+13:00Good grief! like Radio NZ? You mean Radio Pravda,...Good grief! like Radio NZ? You mean Radio Pravda, surely!Adolf Fiinkenseinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08045358863278087055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-51755710580152505702012-10-09T12:29:50.948+13:002012-10-09T12:29:50.948+13:00No, KN, NOT like TVNZ.
To an extraordinary degre...No, KN, NOT like TVNZ. <br /><br />To an extraordinary degree by international standards, the publicly-owned TVNZ operates as a purely commercial broadcaster. It has no charter to direct it towards the kind of neutral - but critical - news coverage New Zealand so desperately needs.<br /><br />I would say: "Like Radio New Zealand".Chris Trotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-44403283083271706592012-10-09T11:19:40.226+13:002012-10-09T11:19:40.226+13:00If you want a free daily paper I suggest that you ...If you want a free daily paper I suggest that you move to Wellington. Anyone can get a free copy of the Dom/Post simply by going into Te Papa and picking one up.<br />To be fair the Dom/Post being free probably reflects fair pricing.alwynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-19820948882761491602012-10-09T10:31:37.999+13:002012-10-09T10:31:37.999+13:00"perhaps it is time to start thinking about t..."perhaps it is time to start thinking about the creation of a publicly-funded, editorially neutral (and that neutrality would need to be guaranteed by statute) national (with a small ānā!) newspaper?"<br /><br />Like TVNZKNnoreply@blogger.com