tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post1419622913804634270..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: A Snap Election (In Slow Motion)Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-6518504380597680032014-04-10T00:44:21.123+12:002014-04-10T00:44:21.123+12:00Chris, i know an extremely politically aware Scand...Chris, i know an extremely politically aware Scandanavian Social Worker (who lives in NZ and who goes out of his way to help a lot of disadvantaged people who in this "Marketplace" ruin of a country are EVERYWHERE)and he believes that Key and his Gang of Thieves will scrape back in.<br /><br />Because of the shabby lacklustre indolence of the Labour Party with Shane Jones and his compadres determined to make sure that there is NOT going to happen, a Green/Labour Alliance (how Jones and his fellow Douglasites loath the word "Alliance"!!! Except if it is with the National/ACT/Maori Party - all equally rottenly corrupt Pigs-In-The-Trough).<br /><br />But Chris, one thing, those 800,000 "Missing Voters" for the Left; the NZ Green Party are exactly the same as the Alliance, and stand for exactly the same principles of Socio-Economic Democracy/Fairness, and they politically campaign just like the Alliance even though the Mass-Media reviles them and relentlessly slanders them, just as with the Alliance.<br /><br />So Chris, it is way past time that you started using your very powerful literary skills to get on the side of the New Zealand/Aoteroa Green Party.<br /><br />We (and yes, i am a Green Party member and take immense pride in being so) are NOT dope-smoking tree-hugging Hippies; what the Mass-Media are doing everything they can to hide from New Zealand, is that the New Zealand Green Party ARE the only Socialist Party in this country.<br /><br />The so-called "Labour" party has never been able to regain any credibility as "born-again-socialists" in spite of their half-hearted lacklustre attempts periodically to do so, since the advent of the Roger Douglas so-called "Labour" party.<br /><br />Talk about the misnomer of all misnomers!!!<br /><br />Scorpionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-32914286001967916782014-03-27T10:07:00.203+13:002014-03-27T10:07:00.203+13:00It is important to learn the distinction between t...It is important to learn the distinction between the language of academic rigor, Mark, and the newspaper columnist's rhetorical flourishes.<br /><br />My column is entitled not simply "Snap Election" - but "A Snap Election (In Slow Motion)". That should have been enough to alert you to the tone and purpose of the piece.<br /><br />The dates you have selected are just about all the consequences of the genuine snap elections of 14 July 1984 and 27 July 2002. After those it took 3-4 elections to get back to the traditional last Saturday in November. <br /><br />We arrived there in 1999, only to have Helen Clark derange it all again by going early in 2002.<br /><br />My point - and it still stands - is that by 2011 we were once again back to the traditional date and there is no valid reason for bringing the election date forward by 70 days in 2014 other than the Government's own political advantage.Chris Trotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-29122727650687998122014-03-27T09:10:54.280+13:002014-03-27T09:10:54.280+13:0041st† 14 July 1984
42nd 15 August 1987
43rd 27 Oct...41st† 14 July 1984<br />42nd 15 August 1987<br />43rd 27 October 1990<br />44th 6 November 1993<br />45th† 12 October 1996<br />46th 27 November 1999<br />47th† 27 July 2002<br />48th 17 September 2005<br />49th 8 November 2008<br />50th 26 November 2011<br /><br />Great column Chris .Pity the facts don't match your argument .Here are the dates of the last 10 elections .If this is a " snap " election its a very long 6 month snap I would have thought .<br />Mark Unsworthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-75584133562468265542014-03-24T20:29:22.301+13:002014-03-24T20:29:22.301+13:00Except providing a much longer notice period than ...Except providing a much longer notice period than usual pretty much shoots down most of your arguments Chris.<br /><br />Labour has a much longer period to plan with certitude. They don't need to plan around several possible dates, for instance.Scousernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-43776671502380156482014-03-21T08:17:49.473+13:002014-03-21T08:17:49.473+13:00Yes I think you're absolutely correct...Yes I think you're absolutely correct...The Flying Tortoisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09212913610390768373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-36692414261343296102014-03-19T13:04:29.073+13:002014-03-19T13:04:29.073+13:00I seem to remember Chris an early election in 2002...I seem to remember Chris an early election in 2002, the Alliance may have been imploding but Clark's govt still had the confidence of the house to pass legislation. The real question is who will still be in Labour's ranks after the post election bloodletting has finished. I remember Mike Moore in his book 'A world without walls' mentioning about the pro Clark Labour faction sabotaging their own 1993 general election campaign in order to oust him, early election or not history looks set to repeat. thesorrow&thepitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-88906069354896433892014-03-19T11:11:29.511+13:002014-03-19T11:11:29.511+13:00I'll bet you Mr. McCarten has given up.I'll bet you Mr. McCarten has given up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-17849904659963108492014-03-19T09:06:04.555+13:002014-03-19T09:06:04.555+13:00I agree with your analysis, the cooler spring weat...I agree with your analysis, the cooler spring weather may also weaken the resolve of voters who see a left victory as unlikely anyway. I wonder if we wouldn't be better forcing our political parties to serve the full term (I think this is the case in Germany) which would put the onus on the various parties to form whatever coalitions were necessary to keep a government together till election date - even if that meant a national/green/mana/act government - no snap elections and no advantages to the incumbent and absolute certainty for all parties and voters about when the big day is.Trotskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16195209368708469914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-28408462603966334922014-03-18T23:38:06.583+13:002014-03-18T23:38:06.583+13:00Oh Paul, where did that come from? Remember if you...Oh Paul, where did that come from? Remember if you can that Max Bradford privatised the power supply companies and the "Retail" too. Going to reduce power prices he crowed!<br /><br />Max wasn't Labour as I recall. By the time Helen's mob got in it was too late and they really couldn;t do that much so chose to do nothing. Bearing in mind that Helen's bunch were never 'Labour'Davo Stevensnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-25458120306792133072014-03-18T17:39:32.821+13:002014-03-18T17:39:32.821+13:00Here is Mr Chris at his truth
quote " By b...Here is Mr Chris at his truth <br /><br />quote " By bringing the election forward he is hoping to deny Labour and the Greens the full electoral effect of rising mortgage interest rates and electricity prices. Labour-Green policy on both issues offers the voters considerable " unquote <br /><br />Lets examine that. <br />Someone else will pay for your power prices to bring them down.<br />Of course we would like to believe it is the dirty corporation. <br />Facts Chris. It is well proven now that power prices rose magnificently under labour. <br />Read the raw data which is out now, <br />oh dear another right wing fascist representation, censor and edit now Chris<br />paul scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15675247055484136242noreply@blogger.com