tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post2159635224672659084..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Some Things Never Change.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-3129659224224038892017-09-26T13:33:58.788+13:002017-09-26T13:33:58.788+13:00Charles. I honestly don't care what you think ...Charles. I honestly don't care what you think about about Bill's looks one way or the other. You probably thought Muldoon was cute and cuddly. What I disliked was you denigrating a politician because of their looks, and then trying to excuse it with a Tu Quoque, which is a fallacy rather than an argument. Although there are legitimate reasons to perhaps mention her looks, if you feel they might have some relevance to someone's electability. But not in the way you said it. It is low even for you.<br />Neither do I care about Kate Shepard's politics. Many of those early suffragists were middle-class and therefore naturally conservative. Many were eugenicists as well. <br />And of course your reasons for voting are your own. It's always open to vote for someone simply because they are a woman or a man. And it's not just the left that thinks this. That's why you people elected your man Trump.:)Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-848563392942275832017-09-25T12:35:09.946+13:002017-09-25T12:35:09.946+13:00Well I was wrong and now I'm amazed Bill &...Well I was wrong and now I'm amazed Bill & Co pulled this one off. Incredibly sensible and wise electorate I think. Refuses to change horses unless the fresh one is truly fresh, but also solid in the hind quarters.<br />Cidarella is a fresh horse but clearly the solid half of the electorate thought, nah, too thin on form, a bit flighty and mouthy. She'll be better with more time in the job so, next time. Perhaps. And as for the rest of the left field. Too tired and way to flighty to risk.Charles Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-37863533457991960332017-09-24T10:34:14.387+13:002017-09-24T10:34:14.387+13:00And GS you will not be surprised to know I think B...And GS you will not be surprised to know I think Bill is good looking.<br />But of course these shallow things should be irrelevant, although they clearly count.<br />I have heard female reporters talk about his 'rugged good looks' and certainly some women fancied JK. <br />But your side is just as guilty of this superficiality. A ludicrous academic wrote in the Press last week that Ardern had a lot in common with Kate Sheppard, including her good looks!<br />So there you go, a female academic, so obviously of the left, making dumb statements like that.<br />I guess it is not surprising if she thought our wonderful Kate, who was a conservative btw, was remotely like the toothful new kid on the block.<br />But you see, as the left thinks its ok to vote for someone based on their gender or for one of their parents' race, like with Clinton & Obama or Arden, for their youth, it opens it up for others to openly not vote for them for that reason.<br />So we can say part of Bill's attraction is he is a grey haired white man. You asked for it.Charles Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-47713763230333737262017-09-24T00:46:53.268+12:002017-09-24T00:46:53.268+12:00For the little that it's worth, I find her the...For the little that it's worth, I find her the exact ideal and crest of feminine desirability. Her idiosyncratic teeth prove that she is comfortable and confident in her own skin and does not need any measure of Kardashianesque surgical onanism in her life.<br /><br />Her face is beautifully proportioned and reassuring, her long black hair is something 19th century highwaymen would have killed for and faced the gallows for and her figure is as devastating as a lovingly worked and richly-commissioned Mycenaean statue that Persian kings would hear of but not believe to be possible in the rebel states of their dreams and nightmares.manfredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05864320667710466331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-89803196400898089622017-09-23T12:29:42.485+12:002017-09-23T12:29:42.485+12:00I've been thinking about chances statement. It...I've been thinking about chances statement. It seems to me typical of many conservatives that they denigrate people rather than their ideas. It's interesting isn't it that Muldoon was physically repulsive in my opinion, yet nobody thought it mattered a great deal. Particularly not conservatives, even though he wasn't always a favourite. And none of the New Zealand male prime ministers have ever been particularly physically attractive, partly of course because they were mostly old. I found John Key particularly repulsive, both physically and mentally, but I would never bother mentioning the physical side. Because it bears no relationship to his ability to run the country. And no one has ever asked a male New Zealand candidate anything so stupid as are they going to have children. As I said, all the sensitivity of a dead possum. Or as someone said in a book I read a while ago "He was of the Guards Brigade, and not sensitive to atmosphere." It just goes to show how little social progress we've actually made when it comes to women and power.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-76005282300887141122017-09-23T01:31:56.540+12:002017-09-23T01:31:56.540+12:00I hope you won't mediate this at all: publish ...I hope you won't mediate this at all: publish it. So much more important on Sunday, Monday...But I think this is a high torso tackle--the guy with the sign defeated himself, a strawman, when there are so many legitimate middle torso tackles.<br />In NZ, for the moment, with the lack of born-again Christians--those intrepid rationalizers-- free discussion corrects false arguments (e.g. $11 billion hole). sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-12401352727168737512017-09-22T23:26:03.413+12:002017-09-22T23:26:03.413+12:00Charles E, you are the perfect National/Act party ...Charles E, you are the perfect National/Act party cheerleader.Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-76382524756962572062017-09-22T21:14:58.655+12:002017-09-22T21:14:58.655+12:00i think the whole thing really comes back to educa...i think the whole thing really comes back to education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-82610767594746807412017-09-22T19:50:37.973+12:002017-09-22T19:50:37.973+12:00Charles E
Repulsive? not just unattractive, perhap...Charles E<br />Repulsive? not just unattractive, perhaps? really? You really are showing your colours.<br />As for myself, I don't want to be ruled by a liar and self-interested benefit bludger.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-81468807708773666182017-09-22T19:47:24.323+12:002017-09-22T19:47:24.323+12:00"And she's not pretty either. I find her ..."And she's not pretty either. I find her repulsive."<br />Gosh, I think she'd probably be really, really sorry about that. Not. Basically Charles you're just doing what the man with the sign did. But why would I expect anything else from someone with the sensitivity of a dead possum.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-49477110612116980552017-09-22T17:38:47.475+12:002017-09-22T17:38:47.475+12:00Bullseye Chris! Once again you hit the nail on th...Bullseye Chris! Once again you hit the nail on the head. The troglodytes in the rural sector just don't know on which side their bread is buttered.Guillaumenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-60074660758573572202017-09-22T15:07:36.017+12:002017-09-22T15:07:36.017+12:00And she's not pretty either. I find her repuls...And she's not pretty either. I find her repulsive.<br />But she's certainly no commie. Indeed she is truly Nat-lite so really there is no point to her.<br />And yes we Tories do not want to be ruled over by a totally unqualified child like person.<br />It's a simple thing, we see government as all about competent, wise management. We don't need a leader, as we are grown ups. Grey oldish brainy Bill will be fine.<br /><br />But I predict here and now that the over toothful one will be the next PM. WinFirst is really pissed off with he Nats who have ruined his whole career so he will swallow his hate for the greens and go with Cinderella.Charles Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-39032040064896192772017-09-22T14:05:40.478+12:002017-09-22T14:05:40.478+12:00@Ray:
You are misrepresenting Tremaine’s cartoon....@Ray:<br /><br />You are misrepresenting Tremaine’s cartoon. <br /><br />First, Bill English is not caricatured as a KKK member but as someone who has disguised himself as a blood-stained ghost in order to knock on doors and frighten people. The point is that those he calls on cannot take him seriously: the householder who answers the door immediately sees through his charade, the same way we see through the pantomime hysteria that National has staged around Labour’s tax policies. <br /><br />Second, the cartoon works because its central ploy is to manipulate the whole idea of caricature: Bill English is not *really* the blood-stained ghost depicted – just a politician whom the canny voter can read like a book.<br /><br />The Morrinsville slogan, on the other hand, cannot be elevated beyond the lowest bigotry.<br />Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-23382167814677236382017-09-22T12:01:14.171+12:002017-09-22T12:01:14.171+12:00Meh.
Tremaine's doing his job - as a political...Meh.<br />Tremaine's doing his job - as a political cartoonist, it is his role to provoke, lampoon, and prick the balloon of pomposity that surrounds those in politics.<br /><br />The dairy farmer with the 'Pretty communist' sign is not employed to entertain us with provocation.<br /><br />You're attempting to draw a false equivalence between two very different forms of criticism.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09087515823156265245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-84695651200823693592017-09-22T11:54:38.374+12:002017-09-22T11:54:38.374+12:00Hi Chris
Fortunately you won't have to suffer ...Hi Chris<br />Fortunately you won't have to suffer NZ farmers much longer. It won't be long before all farm land in NZ will be owned by overseas interests. Mostly the "communist"? Chinese. Who are turning out to be far more effective capitalists than we are.<br /> Fancy doing a trade deal that says " if you will be so kind as to buy our milk powder today ( that you would not dream of buying if you didn't need anyway) you can buy all our dairy farms tomorrow. So far that seems to go just the same for labour as national. Seems more of an issue going into an election tomorrow . Only Winston seems to be against it but perhaps the Chinese will be more polite about the water tax as long as it isn't more than .01c per bottle.<br />Cheers D J SDavid Stonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-1397645390626380432017-09-22T11:25:34.371+12:002017-09-22T11:25:34.371+12:00Great strawman there Ray.Great strawman there Ray.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-11123445039592459582017-09-22T11:14:56.689+12:002017-09-22T11:14:56.689+12:00This comment has been removed by the author.pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727942156598555852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-11897298903368169222017-09-22T11:12:32.670+12:002017-09-22T11:12:32.670+12:00Not that the New Zealand Right’s blind hatred of a...Not that the New Zealand Right’s blind hatred of all things Left is anything new. Pot kettle Mr Trotter. The Right's view of the left is far more likely to be "how can people be so stupid" with some feeling of compassion. However, roll on Socialism and New Venuzealand. That is when the hatred really kicks in - best of luck to you all.Bricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-57982260966108388792017-09-22T10:04:49.256+12:002017-09-22T10:04:49.256+12:00We will have to just wait and see. The media in NZ...We will have to just wait and see. The media in NZ is a petty tool of the Rightwing cabal.peteswriteplacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474922953916383101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-882601853716099492017-09-22T09:58:22.136+12:002017-09-22T09:58:22.136+12:00I fear for our country Chris. I fear that National...I fear for our country Chris. I fear that National's do whatever it takes to 'oppose, oppose, oppose' progressive liberal causes has meant NZ has taken another step into a scary post-truth world. I write about it here. <br />https://medium.com/land-buildings-identity-and-values/cognitive-dissonance-225e778d76acBrendon Harrenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-77729234349970625662017-09-22T09:35:08.528+12:002017-09-22T09:35:08.528+12:00And I guess you had a good belly laugh at Tremain&...And I guess you had a good belly laugh at Tremain's cartoon in yesterday's ODT that presented Bill English wearing a white blood stained sheet a la Klu Klux Klan.<br />As compared with a banner held up that says "Pretty Communist" oh the horrorRayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09151948055232655178noreply@blogger.com