tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post2262959227388011405..comments2024-03-28T21:25:08.138+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Te Pāti Māori Are Revolutionaries – Not Reformists.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-31012810748083032332023-03-26T08:25:32.537+13:002023-03-26T08:25:32.537+13:00There's no shortage of crazy it would appear. ...There's no shortage of crazy it would appear. How's this unhinged rant from Marama - filmed shortly after the baying mob shut down the Speak Up For Women rally.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/i/status/1639450559043506181David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-55593140349467712722023-03-25T10:38:19.462+13:002023-03-25T10:38:19.462+13:00A 50/50% Upper House between 15/85% of the populat...A 50/50% Upper House between 15/85% of the population will be unpalatable to the majority of NZ citizens. <br /><br />I don't want a race war, I hope TPM feel the same way.Ben Waimatanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-42123803248188513312023-03-24T06:41:41.132+13:002023-03-24T06:41:41.132+13:00I'm not convinced there is a large proportion ...I'm not convinced there is a large proportion of Maori enamored with Waititi & Co's radical vision or who regard him, in particular, as anything other than a narcistic buffoon, an embarrassment.<br /><br />Some of the outburst should have resulted in the other parties refusing to have anything to do with them - and would have if they were another ethnicity. But here we are. We should all be more than a little concerned with the evident, thinly disguised or weakly excused arrogance, contempt, resentment and hate. If history is any guide, having someone with those motivations anywhere near the levers of power is a dangerous prospect. <br /> David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-62573206040541932342023-03-24T00:11:29.704+13:002023-03-24T00:11:29.704+13:00You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We&...You say you got a real solution<br />Well, you know<br />We'd all love to see the plan<br />You ask me for a contribution<br />Well, you know<br />We're all doing what we can<br />But if you want money for people with minds that hate<br />All I can tell you is brother you have to wait<br />Don't you know it's gonna be (all right)...-<br /> John Winston Ono Lennon<br /><br />Any minority political rights group are always going to advocate beyond where the public currently is. The idea is to move the center closer to your position by being further to the sides. It is a strategy well worn. I also think that theater is intrinsic to Maori politics, indeed, many like Tame Iti have woven theatrics with protest for 40 years. <br /><br />I think it is worth going back and viewing some public reaction to some of the politics when Matiu Rata set up Mana Motuhake. Few of the policies would raise an eyebrow now. His successor as leader of Mana Motuhake, Sandra Lee, sat at number six in cabinet maintaining the same views as Rata espoused. <br /><br />My apologies if my attempt at te reo is clumsy, but - Heihei-iti. The Barronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-77947819405856470692023-03-23T21:29:45.671+13:002023-03-23T21:29:45.671+13:00Probably your (mini) "Magnum Opus" Chris...<br />Probably your (mini) "Magnum Opus" Chris... at least for 2023 to date? <br /><br />Debbie is one smart Marama. The Hat is good entertainment value ...(Pearly Shells anyone). <br /><br />As Parti Maori though, they could, come Oct23, hold the balance of power (Utu?) ... in their Ringa. <br /><br />Oh dear ... electoral chaos looms.LARRY N MITCHELLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-53603953039171483772023-03-23T11:39:04.949+13:002023-03-23T11:39:04.949+13:00"Te Pāti Māori Are Revolutionaries – Not Refo..."Te Pāti Māori Are Revolutionaries – Not Reformists."<br />You should be pleased then right? 😇<br /><br />You obviously don't know much about the Hutt Valley though Chris. Parts of it are amongst the most expensive/upper middle-class places in NZ. And parts of it that used to be pure working class have been considerably gentrified.<br />Hipkins herself attended Waterloo primary school and that's a reasonably upper-middle-class area, although his parents did send him to Petone College rather than Hutt Valley high which is interesting.<br />"Waspish" that he may be, he's hardly Waitakere man. He's always been middle-class, and never AFAIK run his own business. I actually am a Westie who now lives in the Hutt, and I should know. 😇Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-24064952665096125752023-03-22T20:43:28.758+13:002023-03-22T20:43:28.758+13:00"augmenting the pair’s uncompromising radical..."augmenting the pair’s uncompromising radicalism"<br /><br />Poor spelling Chris, it's racism .. too many letter mate.<br /><br />"Waititi and Ngarewa-Packer have no more interest in remaining permanent members of “New Zealand’s” House of Representatives"<br /><br />Ahh, the naivety of the left. Wait, watch and you will see come election night.Gary Petersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-44375356512672098172023-03-22T17:26:08.291+13:002023-03-22T17:26:08.291+13:00The better analogy is the Scottish National Party....The better analogy is the Scottish National Party. Yes, they want wholesale constitutional change (and see Westminster as transitory). But revolutionaries? No. Neither TPM nor the SNP have revolutionary activism that runs to extra-parliamentarianism.<br /><br />The SNP analogy gets even better when one considers the consequence of the SNP bringing down Jim Callaghan in 1979. The Tartan Tory label lasted decades - they helped usher in Margaret Thatcher. The TPM had their own taste of that stigma via their past governing relationship with the National Party (recall the Maori seats in 2017). Bringing down a Labour-Greens government and allowing a National-ACT one? That would not go down well with Maori voters.DShttps://phuulishfellow.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-69190641661420371052023-03-22T17:13:31.671+13:002023-03-22T17:13:31.671+13:00Revolutionaries? Yeah, Nah. Just common or garden...Revolutionaries? Yeah, Nah. Just common or garden racists.Trev1https://www.blogger.com/profile/00271717267778957672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-88148279978450613802023-03-22T15:19:59.405+13:002023-03-22T15:19:59.405+13:00Hopefully enough New Zealanders will see the threa...Hopefully enough New Zealanders will see the threat from the performance artist / shock jocks of the Maori Party and vote solidly for Labour or the Greens.<br /><br />Hopefully enough New Zealanders will see that a National-ACT government will be a rerun of Douglas and Richardson.<br /><br />I live in the Waiariki electorate, and I do not believe that this seat is a slam dunk for Mr Waititi. Brian Tamaki's wife took just enough votes off Coffey to see Waititi slip in.<br /><br />Hopefully Labour will find a good candidate for Waiariki, though I admit I cannot think of any likely candidates.<br /><br />Tania Tapsell would have been a good Labour candidate, but she stood for the National Party last election.<br /><br />I see the Maori Party as an anchor on Labour's chances of winning the next election.Shane McDowallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09354384369518580573noreply@blogger.com