tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post2300028637752127789..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Vaccination NOW! No Citizen Left behind.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-57806904571033372562021-10-14T21:26:49.440+13:002021-10-14T21:26:49.440+13:00Absolutely right.Absolutely right.sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-66251169105295794042021-10-06T22:19:55.073+13:002021-10-06T22:19:55.073+13:00Yet the Asian part of NZ has the highest rate of v...Yet the Asian part of NZ has the highest rate of vaccination. Maybe they are being pushed to the front of the queue by the nasty colonial system.<br /><br />Or perhaps they are taking advantage of free health care that has no consideration of race. CXHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07716356211635024878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-13410235086456702392021-10-06T16:42:32.067+13:002021-10-06T16:42:32.067+13:00DS, I too want to get some idea of the deaths expe...DS, I too want to get some idea of the deaths expected if Covid becomes, as seems inevitable endemic.<br /><br />I have done some reading, there are some issues with the numbers simply because deaths of people with Covid are recorded as from Covid. The WHO site makes this point and provides good numbers as does the CDC site. It appears however that the age profiles haven't significantly changed, mortality increases exponentially after 70. The figures that may be instructive are the excess or deficit of deaths expected annually. These indicate that after the first spike predicted mortality from all causes normalises. NZ hasn't had a spike due to the effectiveness of our lockdown. So will Covid take a seat alongside the flu as a major cause of mortality especially for the elderly? Jury is out, only time will tell.<br /><br />If you are worried about your own risk try this Oxford University calculator https://www.qcovid.org/Home/AcademicLicence?licencedUrl=%2FCalculationNick Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12609312325425361413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-37732167384213069152021-10-06T15:40:01.473+13:002021-10-06T15:40:01.473+13:00Turns out that "front of the queue" Hipk...Turns out that "front of the queue" Hipkins has been dishonest AND incompetent. Pfizer had to hassle our useless government for six weeks to even arrange a meeting to place our order. <br />Far-queue Hipkins? David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-23802668034835695422021-10-06T10:44:09.177+13:002021-10-06T10:44:09.177+13:00As far as my observations go I see the problems wi...As far as my observations go I see the problems with Maori being underprivileged being result of their addictive personalities. They are placed in this position of always being short of money as a result of poker machines Liquor stores and McDonalds being everywhere and the iniquitous tax on cigarettes. What these things would do to the community were clear and obvious from the get go and any government that is serious about helping these people should deal with these items. When I resided in the far North a new owner of the Houhora pub got rid of the pokies resulting in a huge and dramatic improvement for the local community. I won't hold my breath for any changes though, to many greedy people Govt included would loose money.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050541052284941455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-74555451434925115422021-10-06T09:46:25.065+13:002021-10-06T09:46:25.065+13:00It looks like the horse has already bolted re vacc...It looks like the horse has already bolted re vaccine passports with businesses, air lines and events declaring they will bar any of the unvaccinated, the un-clean, from entry. Perhaps a special, complimentary, brown passport is required Chris. Perhaps it's already being considered. That'll go down a treat.<br /><br />I don't know why the Maoris have a lower vax rate, has anyone asked them properly? Looks like a lot of the "explanations" are simply made up to suit. There was a push, while supplies were restricted, to prioritise Maori vaccine access and no shortage of quite alarmist messaging about their supposed (but unsubstantiated) vulnerability as an added incentive. David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-29750056193700757832021-10-06T09:33:43.142+13:002021-10-06T09:33:43.142+13:00What do you make of the Chris Trotter?
https://nic...What do you make of the Chris Trotter?<br />https://niccolo.substack.com/p/the-khyber-pass-interview-murtazaJohn Hurleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-91197762324075567222021-10-05T21:32:07.782+13:002021-10-05T21:32:07.782+13:00A significant portion of the population - includin...A significant portion of the population - including Yours Truly - couldn't care less about the freedoms of Auckland Business and Media types. Keeping the plague out is, and always has been, our priority, and until we've got a concrete idea of what the death toll of endemic Covid involves (500 annually? 5000 annually?), we cannot open up to the rest of the world. Frankly, opting out of the rest of the world on an indefinite basis feels like a Damned Good Idea.<br /><br />The problem is... when the working class inhabitants of South Dunedin (no friends of neoliberalism!) have done their bit, and when dirt-poor Pasifika have done their bit, and when elderly Maori have done their bit, that leaves some major question marks hanging over the younger/North Island Maori vaccination rates. Question marks that cannot be dismissed with mere appeals to racist/economic alienation. Don't forget that younger Maori in the upper North Island were the 2020 epicentre of support for Jami-Lee Ross and his band of Far-Right nutters.DShttps://phuulishfellow.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-59572881965949213142021-10-05T18:38:31.181+13:002021-10-05T18:38:31.181+13:00A lot to digest here. But I will give an attempt a...A lot to digest here. But I will give an attempt at a response.<br /><br />Structural changes to health and an inclusive look at history curricular will have some positive affect. Neither have been put in place yet, but there is reasonable evidence that students engage when they can identify with the teaching approach. All history is revisionist or it is stagnant. I am sure that Chris would agree that monocultural history is not a fit for a multicultural society. I have stated previous that the History teachers are trained professionals, with at least two degrees and on-going professional training. What is being offered now is ensuring Maori and other group history is part of the professional delivery. Inclusion will help address the absenteeism that results from institutions that Maori do not feel engaged in.<br /><br />Similarly, the changes to the structure of health delivery could address some of the problems that the vaccination roll out has in communicating with and engaging with Maori at all levels. It is unfortunate that it has not been in place to help manage this outbreak, but it would be foolish not to factor in lessons from vaccination program as the changes are being put forward.<br /><br />I note you comments on the Maori Party and how they succumbed to National's blankets and beads. While I am critical of Rawiri Waititi's ridiculous posturing at the beginning of the vaccination roll out, I will note that Whanau Ora should be a vehicle to assist communication to Maori communities.<br /><br />I agree with your major argument that not enough ground work was done in preparation for Maori engagement, and that this failure may hold up the different level moves. However, most of the forecasts are based on over 90% of those over 5 years old. We have yet to approve and roll out to the 12 - 5 year olds (pfizer has been approved in the USA for this), and increasing evidence from Israel and the States that a booster shot might be required. <br /><br />We also have to factor in that the demographic profile of Maori is different. An aged based roll out was always going to get a greater percentage of Pakeha over Maori. For many Pakeha, when their age group came out they already knew friends and family members that had been vaccinated through the age roll out. With a younger population, there was a need to ensure Maori had an early identification with those vaccinated. That did not seem to happen.<br /><br />The final note links with the first. With the health system failing Maori in the past, and the education system not acknowledging this, what is left is a quiet distrust that is difficult to engage with. With this the solution is to regain this trust by empowering and funding Maori health initiatives, as we see in this situation - it is complimentary to the wider health aims.<br /><br /> The Barronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-2642864374924677842021-10-05T18:15:54.247+13:002021-10-05T18:15:54.247+13:00Iys interesting to look at the actual data
https:/...Iys interesting to look at the actual data<br />https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-vaccine-data#age<br /><br />Before launching in to a racism rant.<br />The stats are clear Maori over 50 are doing Ok, over 65 close to Pakeha numbers.<br />Its the under 50 Maori who drop away in the stats.<br /><br />So the argument that Maori are hard to reach/different blah blah<br />Seems to suggest that the over 65yo Maori live someplace different to the under 50s.<br /><br />Sorry Chris, nice try but no coconut.<br /><br /><br />oneblokesviewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11747665460845683295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-25107040917240279122021-10-05T17:34:19.912+13:002021-10-05T17:34:19.912+13:00Racism my foot.
Government and its agencies and i...Racism my foot. <br />Government and its agencies and it's lackies and Maori leaders and Maori MPs have been treating Maori and Pacifica like children for years. Telling them that their low socio-economic status is due to racism or bias or boomers or white males or colonisers or landlords, etc , etc has encouraged them to behave like children. Is it any wonder that they behave like children when push comes to shove.<br />Only yesterday one of the co leaders of the Maori party was blaming the health system racism for slow vaccination. She should be pushing vaccination if she was in any way serious and honest.<br />Those people you are blaming for the current mess (like mr and mrs smith)are well past worrying and are getting tired of this constant excuse making.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14253074798445269827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-12463218851131036152021-10-05T16:35:22.737+13:002021-10-05T16:35:22.737+13:00What a lot of mind reading Chris?What a lot of mind reading Chris?John Hurleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-31019962319091226132021-10-05T14:37:56.615+13:002021-10-05T14:37:56.615+13:00With regard to the rentier class and racism Chris ...With regard to the rentier class and racism Chris I'm not convinced. They do it to their own, they do it to anybody. Racism is coincidental, the primary sin is avarice. Greed.<br /><br />To cover the greed any excuse as to the greater worth of the rentier gets expressed, racism comes in useful, but the big one is always class based virtue signalling. Like "They could have the same if only they worked harder or went to school" or "They had the same opportunities as me". Anything to deflect any possibility that the playing field is very sloped.<br /><br />It helps to lump the disadvantaged into Lazy Maori, FOBs and White Trash. That's NZ as the PMC rentier brigade see it, and they vote Labour or Nat in the certain knowledge that nothing will change. Saint Cindy the kind hears the pain, she is not going to do anything. Nick Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12609312325425361413noreply@blogger.com