tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post2906277854910076125..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: The TV3 Poll: Journalism or Propaganda?Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-17488924791592789122021-05-23T00:16:15.924+12:002021-05-23T00:16:15.924+12:00Collins is the last person who would be leading a ...Collins is the last person who would be leading a HR or liberal party.She is is a bitter twisted mediocre lawyer, who can only be styled as the leader of the proles, peasant or police party. A reborn People's Party leader of the sort the National Party embittered like Hooton and Banks dream of.<br />While Tova is on the verge of being a fading 45 year old star, she wears it well with the eyeliner, on this issue, she is genuine and it requires real courage to show the necessary contempt and facts about Collins.<br />Only Ardens mediocrity, zero economic grasp, saves Collins from oblivion in the Polls and exposure as being a Country Party Fundamentalist. On the Christchurch- calls Ardens even more a ridiculous lightweight, her inadequacy masked only by newsreader skills, good looks and empathy. Collins polls have always been in freefall. She is far worse than Clark or Arden, so there is nothing manipulated about her poor appearance and failure to get to grips with the issues.Any real insight or respect for the real 1960s to 1989a National values liberal, women friendly would finish her with her voters and supporters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-51433036522647356772021-05-23T00:00:54.467+12:002021-05-23T00:00:54.467+12:00No in NZ it is not really the media, which is very...No in NZ it is not really the media, which is very insignificant here (TV1 and Newstalk stars are entertainment) and the Print Media has almost vanished other than the old scribes propped up by the China dollar. Although even there it's foreign, the local Chinese live in their own HK enclave, many half kiwi encultured and maybe less enthusiastic than reengagement with the XI than any White or Maori National member in Remmers or St Helliers.<br />The PC, Pro China, Maori First, Utopian equalism and we are not capitalist, anti americanism is the universal narrative of the political classes. And there are only a few significant dissidents, in Parliament, Academia, Civil Service. Noting that half the MPs don't know which Party their in. I mean watch the Fri 21/5 Morning Parliament post budget speech of the MP of Invercargill and the facial reaction of the MP Hellensville ( a former RNZN Lt and Barrister) and the North Shore Nat next to her, let alone the follow on Opposition speech by Christchurch- Central MP Duncan Webb ( a Basset like horror out of the Canterbury Law School, a chip on the shoulder, poor boy from Linwood High like David Round. Webb is arrogant beyond belief and I have had the misfortune to encounter him at the Law School in 2001 and like Megan should have been the last Faculty member to graduate to Parliament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-64842564357402974542021-05-22T10:27:16.799+12:002021-05-22T10:27:16.799+12:00You are an old school leftie, Chris, thank you. A ...You are an old school leftie, Chris, thank you. A bloke to have a beer with and chew the over in lovely old pub. No bs, no wokeness, not too much bias, a clear and centered view. A rare beast in this day and age of wokeism and cancel culture, govt purchased media, the left or nothing, politics. Brilliant piece, and very honest. Refreshing. Shame the Gables in Ponsonby is long gone!<br /><br />Basil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-45509305175731940302021-05-22T08:51:25.338+12:002021-05-22T08:51:25.338+12:00I have no lofty view of politics, just wanted to p...I have no lofty view of politics, just wanted to point out that those on the left are just as bad at trying to push their beliefs on others as those on the right. Neither side being prepared to listen to what the others are saying, just shout them own and use the insult of the day. From my experience there is a growing group in the middle, those who can see positives from both, that are bemused by the extremes being exhibited by both camps. This behaviour is tending to leave them with no real party that represents them.<br />CXHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07716356211635024878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-17712607360947940732021-05-21T11:12:45.102+12:002021-05-21T11:12:45.102+12:00CXH You have a lofty overview of politics as bei...CXH You have a lofty overview of politics as being an arena where gladiators fight over matters that may affect your life. But for others, who don't join you in bemusement, it is our very life and the way that we humans are allowed or enabled to live that we are fighting for. So are you taking bets while you 'wile' your time away?greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-17233670933765433362021-05-20T13:50:47.012+12:002021-05-20T13:50:47.012+12:00Not sure what happened to you Chris. Besides, of c...Not sure what happened to you Chris. Besides, of course, a slow decline into irrelevance that in desperation to halt you throw out some spurious raw meat for the frightened white crowd, who dutifully turn up in droves to praise you in the comments section. Very Judith Collins-esque in that regard - in intent, in implementation and most likely in outcome. But hey, nobody seems to lose out by having a crack at Tova O'Brien, so I'm sure you'll get some internet points out of it, if nothing else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-14914126801617962021-05-20T11:31:28.906+12:002021-05-20T11:31:28.906+12:00The right does defend its own freedoms and tries t...The right does defend its own freedoms and tries to impose them on others.<br /><br />Do you really think the left doesn't do exactly the same? The real problem is that neither side is willing to listen or compromise anymore. The extremes of both sides are screaming at each other while a growing number are sitting in the middle, watching with bemusement, as they tear each other apart taking our country with them. CXHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07716356211635024878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-47363152000706332122021-05-19T21:55:54.388+12:002021-05-19T21:55:54.388+12:00Media is regularly propped up by government/tax pa...Media is regularly propped up by government/tax payer money, no matter who us in power. Some are dependent on it (RNZ National and TV1). Last time it was the Nat govt 'buying' allegiance. Personally I still find the media majorly and predominantly Nat biased. Would love to know what you're listening to/viewing because all I hear/see is relentless government bashing, underreporting of positive news (eg PM in Fortune 100), and deliberate spin and obfuscation. Jenny Purchasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06116782685349929830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-5095984813890807272021-05-19T16:54:07.990+12:002021-05-19T16:54:07.990+12:00Yes Guerilla Surgeon the liberty to live "hap...Yes Guerilla Surgeon the liberty to live "happy-go-lucky" hand-to-mouth has resulted in the inequality of Haves and Have-Nots.<br /><br />Therefore the healthy survival of liberty, equality and brotherhood - additionally to suppressing the freedom for criminal activities and the commitment for help in need - <br /><br /> needs also a regulation that no one can evade participation in the efforts, responsibilities and risks for at least some meaningful personal wealth creation and ownership, so as not to remain or become a Have-not. <br /><br />If there is agreement on that in principle, then a debate can be started about the best ways to operate on the efforts and results achieved.Jens Mederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17304734497662325275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-77702453721791027002021-05-19T13:43:52.422+12:002021-05-19T13:43:52.422+12:00John Hurley at 11.04 - I think there are some impo...John Hurley at 11.04 - I think there are some important points in there that illustrate what is startling thinking NZ, and upsetting it. The trouble with democracy is that for it to be effective, people have to understand other people, and what will work and not expect too much. If we ran our democracy with simple rules, like the road rules, what would happen? Everyone gets to have a turn - there is a set priority no matter who you are, and people manage to move around in very complex fashion, usually successfully. The only change to procedure is on high days and holidays an festivals and visits from VIPs.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-43057368658169341092021-05-19T13:23:12.197+12:002021-05-19T13:23:12.197+12:00Presenter slim, fitting skirt, very high heels. ...Presenter slim, fitting skirt, very high heels. Have we moved at all since late 1970's in women's aspirations to live full lives without the cloying regime of perfection to a conforming image?greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-9222002458418703432021-05-19T11:14:08.169+12:002021-05-19T11:14:08.169+12:00You are all clearly confused about the proper role...You are all clearly confused about the proper role of media, which is to ensure private individuals lose their jobs for acts of incidental racism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-71951722643017923442021-05-19T05:39:11.118+12:002021-05-19T05:39:11.118+12:00"As a man of the left it must break your hear..."As a man of the left it must break your heart to realise that the foundational western ideals of liberté, égalité, fraternité are now defended only by the right,"<br /><br /><br />Hahahahahahahahahahaha.<br /><br />The right only defends its own freedoms, the rest of the time it's busy trying to take everyone else's away. Right-wing parties all over the developed world and through much of the rest of the world are denying people their rights – to vote as in the US, to religious freedom, as in India, to their sexuality as in Poland, to education and academic freedom, as in Hungary. I think Chris's heart should probably be safe.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-55866928949022206652021-05-18T21:42:52.176+12:002021-05-18T21:42:52.176+12:00So your comments are about the 'style' of ...So your comments are about the 'style' of the mainstream media. Cos it has been terrible about we 35-ists since the 80/90s.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-75393662827783043762021-05-18T21:28:37.394+12:002021-05-18T21:28:37.394+12:00Very refreshing to see any critique of the media, ...Very refreshing to see any critique of the media, and in particular, one that appears to have no barrow to push. Here on the other side of the ditch but as an expat kiwi, I've watched with dismay as reporting about Covid in NZ has become political rather than based on public health. The media in NZ appear to want to spend all their time portraying JA as a saviour. My first inkling that all was not as it was being portrayed was the announcement last year that NZ had eliminated covid. Easy to work out that this couldn't be correct, as Australia's cases at the time were only returnees. NZ was also having returnees, therefore more than likely that there were covid cases too. No media questioning and little critique about the whether this was propaganda rather than facts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-89092952694379891402021-05-18T20:54:56.527+12:002021-05-18T20:54:56.527+12:00This is what we need, no propaganda, no agenda, ju...This is what we need, no propaganda, no agenda, just two wise people searching for the truth.<br />An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry - Jordan B Peterson<br />https://youtu.be/fFFSKedy9f4<br />David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-22838229364833487772021-05-18T17:19:52.364+12:002021-05-18T17:19:52.364+12:00https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/the-aspira...https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/the-aspirational-plan-being-used-to-stir-racial-discord/ar-BB1gNj1q?ocid=msedgntp<br /><br />Well well, is this journalism?Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-30702508053489844622021-05-18T15:21:48.075+12:002021-05-18T15:21:48.075+12:00Well said Chris and thank you for your objectivene...Well said Chris and thank you for your objectiveness. I am intrigued that no-one seems to have picked up on the fact that the race to separatism is advancing so quickly. We have been told that the target date for so much of the reshaping of this country is 2040. I don't believe it. That date is to remove the immediacy and allow us to not worry as there is time and there are more elections where we can reverse and resolve the problems. Not so. I believe that the next election, if we are allowed to have it, will be our last chance to get back on track and retain our democracy. Mike Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-36118067233011893082021-05-18T15:21:23.611+12:002021-05-18T15:21:23.611+12:00As a man of the left it must break your heart to r...As a man of the left it must break your heart to realise that the foundational western ideals of liberté, égalité, fraternité are now defended only by the right, and that journalists have morphed from anti establishment 4th estate into anti democratic 5th column. Such a sad sight to see a willfully blind population marching themselves into the arms of oppression.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-79216650285456563492021-05-18T14:16:30.015+12:002021-05-18T14:16:30.015+12:00What Tom Hunter said.
Risible is it not, when thi...What Tom Hunter said.<br /><br />Risible is it not, when this has been going on for so long but only now is it an issue: <br /><br />"first they came for the unions" and such eh?<br /><br />I suspect, given the constant demonisation of the 'pale, stale' Nats (who incidentally were villified when they had both a Leader and Deputy of Maori descent by the same people now suggesting they aren't 'diverse enough'), that some people, were they to wake up in a single Party state would think it was a blessing, and go on facebook to esxhult in their good fortune!.<br /><br />Tova O'Brian now setting her sights on running another campaign of vitriol on yet another Leader of The Opposition, is an insidious affront to the public's 'right' to be served by independent media, which apparently is governed by certain principles, - yet appears oblivious to them. Have a read of 'Priciples' here. All that is missing is canned laughter: https://www.mediacouncil.org.nz/principles<br /><br />This casual, and infantilised fairy-tale narrative about our political system which these so-called 'journalists' peddle is damaging, self-serving and corrupted. <br /><br />We've got a system which is now dominated by our very own Celebrity Kardashian-couple and served by sychophantic cheerleaders, who clearly view themselves as part of the same celebrity elite.<br /><br />Meanwhile, when certain people are caught breaking the law it's suggested the 'Law' is wrong, or when policy is made up on the hoof without mandate its called 'Captain's Calls', and we're all supposed to 'heart' it... <br /><br />Such is the dumbed-down level of political critique we are routinely served-up.<br /><br />It's trash.<br />Connect-Ed CTAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10215773818106960867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-77980621730160898742021-05-18T14:02:33.983+12:002021-05-18T14:02:33.983+12:00Five of your last six columns have featured He Pup...Five of your last six columns have featured He Pupua.<br /><br />He Pupua has become very stale Chris.<br /><br />There are week old loaves less stale.Shane McDowallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09354384369518580573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50263813137219024652021-05-18T13:58:01.218+12:002021-05-18T13:58:01.218+12:00Unless an election is imminent there is no point i...Unless an election is imminent there is no point in political polls.<br /><br />You know that TVNZ, TV-3 and Prime have no news when they start their early evening news broadcast with the results of some political poll. And they have perfected the art of stretching a 90 second story over 10 to 15 minutes.<br /><br />The truth is there is f**k all real news in New Zealand. That the OJ Simpson and Tonya Harding sagas even made it onto our screens is proof that New Zealand is a news desert.<br /><br />The print media are no better, I am sick to the back teeth of the New Zealand Herald breathlessly reporting Auckland's infrastructure woes as "news". My local rag has only four themes for the front page: the homeless, house prices, some local notary has died, or a hideous crime.<br /><br />Thank God for Time magazine, North and South, and the Listener.Shane McDowallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09354384369518580573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-51873481795070256762021-05-18T13:17:20.257+12:002021-05-18T13:17:20.257+12:00You're only noticing this about the MSM now?
...You're only noticing this about the MSM now?<br /><br />Well of course, because this is an issue you care about, have been hammering away on, and which you now find yourself on the opposite side of from the Labour-supporting MSM.<br /><br />Welcome to the club, but it's a bit late to be making these complaints now, and in any case stuff like this - suppressing or minimising coverage of news that's bad for Labour/Greens/Maori Party and amplifying news that's good for them, as well as the casual and endless demonisation of government opponents - is what will see Labour re-elected in 2023, something you will surely celebrate.Tom Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17840988228699338463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-58296027546130403562021-05-18T12:48:16.731+12:002021-05-18T12:48:16.731+12:00An excellent article...lets hope O'Brien reads...An excellent article...lets hope O'Brien reads it.<br /><br />The Maorification putsch is well underway at various ADHB's too !<br /><br />As an elderly,"white " surgeon nearing retirement, I will REFUSE to prioritise treatment on ethnic basis over clinical need, as is openly proposed by several DHBs . The public have their heads in the sand I'm afraid.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-4462222654102650802021-05-18T12:31:43.862+12:002021-05-18T12:31:43.862+12:00Kiwis don't understand.
The Daemon descends....Kiwis don't understand. <br /><br />The Daemon descends. The bounds of truth are lies. We are at the point in the implementation of the Matrix where its advances are now undetectable and indecipherable to the ordinary citizen. <br /><br />Give this a watch, please:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIXhnWUmMvwJohn Connornoreply@blogger.com