tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post3770777962231988733..comments2024-03-28T21:25:08.138+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: If Ebola Goes GlobalChris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-48883754531636736562014-11-12T13:36:01.170+13:002014-11-12T13:36:01.170+13:00Conspiracy to commit or fund mass-murder,
What'...Conspiracy to commit or fund mass-murder,<br />What's the penalty on that???Jamienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-10987826759507310512014-11-03T14:58:45.824+13:002014-11-03T14:58:45.824+13:00http://theoyl.com/2014/10/15/pieces-of-the-puzzle-...http://theoyl.com/2014/10/15/pieces-of-the-puzzle-the-handling-of-ebola-in-the-u-s-is-not-incompitence/Jamienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-38880177933445212452014-10-30T15:18:14.929+13:002014-10-30T15:18:14.929+13:00Have you perhaps inside knowledge of Labours re el...Have you perhaps inside knowledge of Labours re election strategy Fern?pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727942156598555852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-6512927287604095312014-10-30T10:32:41.517+13:002014-10-30T10:32:41.517+13:00Looking on the bright side of the Black Death, it’...Looking on the bright side of the Black Death, it’s my understanding that many of the able-bodied peasants who survived the pandemic found themselves enjoying a labour market where they could pick their employer and name their price, rather than being virtual slaves tied to one landowner.Fernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12706837774091073272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-49054754928689012014-10-29T22:29:08.385+13:002014-10-29T22:29:08.385+13:00Scene from Platoon
{Chaos and confusion reigns, f...Scene from Platoon<br /><br />{Chaos and confusion reigns, fear panic and death is near, the fog of war}<br /><br />Sgt. Barnes: [To CDC/Barack Hussein Obama] <br /><br />You ignorant asshole!!! <br />What the fuck coordinates you giving??? <br />You wasted a lot of people up there with your fucked-up pandemic response!!!<br /><br />You know that???<br />You know that???<br /><br />....Ah, shit!!! <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmyIxcfYmo<br /><br />http://www.nairaland.com/1848781/scary-pictures-ebola-virus-victims<br /><br />Sgt. Barnes: Y'all take a good look at this lump of shit. Remember what it looks like. <br />You fuck up in a pandemic and I goddamn guarantee you a trip out of the bush in a body bag!!!<br /> Out here, assholes, you keep your shit wired tight at all times!!! <br /><br />[To 'the keep calm crowd'] <br /><br />Sgt. Barnes: And that goes for you, shit-for-brains. You don't run your mouth on no fucking ebola-pandemic!!! <br /><br />[To CDC/US Govt] <br /><br />Sgt. Barnes: And the next son of a bitch I catch copping "Z"s in the bush, I'm personally gonna take an interest in seeing him suffer. <br /><br />I shit you not.... <br /><br />Trotter, tag em and bag emJamienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-30742954919245270722014-10-29T17:57:02.686+13:002014-10-29T17:57:02.686+13:00J Bloggs (Joe?)
not just NZs chances, indeed I be...J Bloggs (Joe?)<br /> not just NZs chances, indeed I believe we are probably the best location to survive a global meltdown of any cause...but that would be what it was , survival... not the comfortable high tech lifestyle we currently expect.<br /> I dispute the claim we dont manufacture much of what is vital for our (very limited) industry to function is merely due to cost competitiveness...there are numerous vital industries where we have no knowledge or capacity AND where there is no lower tech substitute...not as great a concern 40 plus years ago but now sadly you cannot repair or create substitutes at your local engineering firm....some vital items are only available from one or two highly specialised manufacturing labs in the world.<br /> The claim we can educate and create these technologies from scratch ignores many factors not least of which is the time , and failures along the way.<br /> Think Cuba for the period of US sanctions to the power of 100.<br /> With the great benefits of specialisation comes great risk.<br />pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727942156598555852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-71082596910149823422014-10-29T11:36:40.999+13:002014-10-29T11:36:40.999+13:00Pat - I fear you are being unduly pessimistic abou...Pat - I fear you are being unduly pessimistic about NZ's chances. Bearing in mind that what I am saying is contingent on NZ maintaining its isolation from the disease, then I beleive that technology wise, we would have to take a few steps backward - but people were building and running power plants and factories that produced technologies that enable society to run effectively a century ago - without electronics, without the internet, without, to a large extent, gasoline. While it may seem a huge step backward to the internet generation, it wasn't that long ago in the grand scheme of things.<br /><br />Regarding the high tech parts - there is no reason (other than availiblity of rare materials) that a NZ company couldn't come up with a replacement part - the main reason we don't do so now is that it is not economic to do so - that rationale goes out the window when there is no other option for acquiring the part you need. NZ has suffiecntly educated and technically capable people able to step into the gap, along with an education ssytem capable of turning out more such people.<br /><br />In a pandemic situation the key priorities would be maintaining the food supply to the population, which as a net exporter of food, we are capable of doing, and preventing the spread of the disease in NZ, which with our isolation is far easier for us than for most other nations. If those two conditions are met,then society can maintain law and order - Daily life, although significantly harder and different than today, would go on. Yes, there would be hardships, but no more so than during the depression, or world wars, and we survived those as a nation.J Bloggsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-35864891306760431262014-10-29T06:57:25.817+13:002014-10-29T06:57:25.817+13:00I think the experts are claiming that this disease...I think the experts are claiming that this disease does not spread very quickly. It's not airborne and not likely to be. But even so I suppose a panic could shut down travel. Oil shouldn't be a problem surely? We export quite a lot. Might get it a bit cheaper if we can't sell it anywhere else :-). Come to think of it, with an incubation period of 3 weeks, I can't see why it should shut down sea travel to New Zealand. Last I checked it still took about 6 weeks from Europe.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-35420912418845790512014-10-29T06:50:57.419+13:002014-10-29T06:50:57.419+13:00Contagion rate important, death rate also, but wou...Contagion rate important, death rate also, but would suggest the most devastating impact would be the fear rate...it has already been noted the loss of economic activity in west Africa due to ebola with potential flow on effects i.e. lack of crop planting.<br /> NZs isolated position though helpful would not grant it immunity and its ability to function as a recognisable society would be sorely tested, we may consider ourselves "innovative and practical" (I suggest no more so than any other national grouping) but thats not very helpful when the high tech part you need to allow your power generation plant to continue to operate is manufactured in a european country that no longer trades with this part of the world or possibly even is itself a functioning society.<br /> Sadly the notion that any society could function at more than 3rd world level without the global trading system we have developed is laughable and is an obvious weak point in globalisation.<br /> The recently reported study into population growth (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29788754) highlight the pressures that will be placed on the worlds ability to feed and water and place an ever expanding world population ...how would any society cope with these tasks without the advantages of the high tech, high speed and highly productive tools we currently take for granted? <br /> I agree with Chris, our systems are already balanced on a knife edge and it will only take an Ebola pandemic (or the like) to upset that balance.....As with most disasters the the ability to cope is always rendered impossible by the lack of the one thing we cannot buy or manufacture..time.pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727942156598555852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-60606320869932229482014-10-28T21:11:45.223+13:002014-10-28T21:11:45.223+13:00FUBARFUBARJamienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-86099071991047993692014-10-28T19:24:05.349+13:002014-10-28T19:24:05.349+13:00My understanding is that ebola is not highly conta...My understanding is that ebola is not highly contagious as you claim. Are you confusing contagiousness with the fact that the death rate for those infected is very high?Andrew Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-4938838651341301162014-10-28T16:40:01.657+13:002014-10-28T16:40:01.657+13:00I disagree that NZ would be devastated by a global...I disagree that NZ would be devastated by a global shutdown as you posit. Indeed, while our economy would shudder and many people would have thier way of life disrupted, we, as a nation, are capable of producing enough food to support our population, and have the technical knowledge base to develop home grown industries to replace some of what we could no longer import. The biggest impact would be the loss of imported oil (which some might not see as a bad thing anyway...). However, I believe that we have the knowledge and ability to come up with ways around the issues created by that situation. If the disease can be prevented gaining a foothold here, then we are quite possibly (IMHO) the country best positioned to survive such a pandemic relatively intact. <br /><br />A global pandemic, particularly of a non-airborne disease, has less chance of reaching us here, simply because we are 1200kms from the next nearest large land mass. Unlike many other nations where it can creep undected across the borders, we have the distinct advantage of distance, and the requirement of discrete means of approach to our country (boats and aircraft)<br /><br />Sometimes there are advantages to being a small country at the bottom of the world, far away from everywhere else. <br /><br /> J Bloggsnoreply@blogger.com