tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post4446437272411508409..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Piling-On The Pressure.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-45098374072555503682018-04-10T10:09:03.633+12:002018-04-10T10:09:03.633+12:00It's just the 99 Winter of Discontent orchestr...It's just the 99 Winter of Discontent orchestrated scam all over again...designed to frighten a non Nat Govt away from clear election commitments. Andrew Nicholsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-21741157026559626702018-04-08T05:42:54.183+12:002018-04-08T05:42:54.183+12:00Sorry Chris but the media always acts like a pack ...Sorry Chris but the media always acts like a pack of chickens pecking at the mere sight of blood. They did so to National for 9 years and now it's Labours turn.<br />Quite frankly Aderns handling of pretty much everything since Xmas has demonstrated clearly that she has been weighed, she has been measured and she has been found terribly wanting.<br />Not at any time before assuming power had she demonstrated the aptitude to be Prime Ministerates. Certainly she is no Clark or Key.<br />To complain about the media's response to the Russia crisis is quite frankly infantile and beneath you. You should know more than anyone that it doesn't matter whether Russia was involved or not. All that was required was a symbolic expulsion of a diplomat or two to show solidarity with our 5 eyes partners. <br />You have gone from posting excellent articles before the election to really quite sycophantic ones post the election. I hope you recover soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-37621935349577118882018-04-07T15:46:29.701+12:002018-04-07T15:46:29.701+12:00Sorry Chris, I disagree on this one. The media hon...Sorry Chris, I disagree on this one. The media honeymoon ended abruptly when Labour stuffed up the handling of the various scandals over the last four weeks or so. Jacinda should have fired Kirton immediately. She should have fired Curran immediately. No one is saying she should have fired Shane Jones, Jenny Marcroft or Winston, even though they would have if they were Labour MPs. Even Helen Clark implied that she would have fired these people. John Key certainly would have. <br /><br />I see Paul Eagle has admitted swearing at people - the details of which are not yet clear but it's not much different to that National MP from North Canterbury who got fired for abusing waiters. <br /><br />Whether you like it or not the media will compare Jacinda's standards of behaviour to Clark and Key.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-46171804134516959002018-04-06T15:13:44.292+12:002018-04-06T15:13:44.292+12:00Sanctuary...
Hosking. Singular. Please. 'Ins...Sanctuary...<br /><br />Hosking. Singular. Please. 'Insolent sulking' or business as usual for Hosking & not sure it has anything to do with the adjectives you choose for him. Can we call time on the 'white male' thing & its ilk..please? Hilary Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240590567749247083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-46771003527470531642018-04-06T14:57:26.498+12:002018-04-06T14:57:26.498+12:00W[Ron]g
You comment refers to 'spilled blood&#...W[Ron]g<br />You comment refers to 'spilled blood'. Are you an Army dropout? What I<br />want is a country that works well and doesn't spill blood until absolutely necessary. It is not at that point. As for the political discussion about what was right, the Natzional party have managed to skew that so well that they say right is left. Labour has to find their own way in this morass they have left.<br /><br /> If you were a true patriot Ron you would want the government doing things for the people but instead you are treating our political process as if it was some pathetic neighbourhood dispute with everybody taking sides according to their predilections. Stick to sport mate, they play to definite rules or else everybody notices. With politics each side is open to question, the one with more money buys the judgment, and the left misses out big time.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-31945338976382554192018-04-06T12:01:48.454+12:002018-04-06T12:01:48.454+12:00Chris,
I do not seem to be able to locate a piece ...Chris,<br />I do not seem to be able to locate a piece from on the uncritical pieces, the fawning over her, and softball interviews the media were giving Jacinda up to February. Is it not a case of the media angrily turning on her now the hype they built up has fallen apart in front of their eyes? I'm starting to see a similar trend with Hillary Clinton with the media as they come to realise that she was a terrible candidate and has now turned into a very bitter and pathetic individual. If the rumours are true, why is she now calling the media to complain about the coverage? This is certainly not a case of Key Derangement Syndrome as Jacinda's true inability to manage and lead a government are coming to the fore. It is refreshing that all sides of the media spectrum are commenting on the current government situation in generally even handed terms.Michael Wyndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12323632941060268210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50669590188645415292018-04-06T09:23:10.979+12:002018-04-06T09:23:10.979+12:00TheSpinoff is not left wing. It is urban liberal/h...TheSpinoff is not left wing. It is urban liberal/hipster, which makes it a Blairite/third way publication aimed squarely at the managerial classes. <br /><br />The fact a media commentator like yourself still uses such lazy definitions is a good indicator of the overall intellectual state of our media commentariat. There is no mainsteream left wing journalism in NZ. At best, you get middle class liberalism with a pink and Green tinge, written by people who would be alarmed at any serious threat to the current socio-political status quo. And you if doubt that, I commend you to go and review the Guardian's coverage of Corbyn's ascent to power to see how the urban liberals react to the arrival of a proper left winger on the scene.<br /><br />The media commentariat is far too old, far too white and far too well off to have any real idea of life in NZ in 2018, but which makes for a excellent representation of the 1980s-90s neolib generation that just got unexpectedly tossed out of office. The unexpected nature of the rapid demotion from centrality to periphery of power by a younger generation of Labour party leader goes a long way to explaining the splenetic reaction of the media commentariat - Mike Hoskings appears to be trying to set a world record for the longest period of insolent sulking for an over fifty rich white male, an awesome feat given the competition coming out of Trump's America. <br />Sanctuaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03107330732524823291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-45088392142483303832018-04-06T08:37:31.868+12:002018-04-06T08:37:31.868+12:00Spot on Chris. The key point being that the MSM ha...Spot on Chris. The key point being that the MSM has overcooked the criticism of the (still new) government to a point where they are showing blindingly obvious bias and a total lack of objectivity.Bearded Githttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08551366989590901786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-31008850084354789952018-04-05T17:18:57.982+12:002018-04-05T17:18:57.982+12:00No liberal left wig media in New Zealand? The Spin...No liberal left wig media in New Zealand? The Spinoff, The Wireless - not mainstream. its true. The Sunday Star Times is pretty liberal. Left folk have hated the story that led to the departure of Hirschfeld from RNZ. That says more about the state of the left than it does about mainstream media./ John Drinnannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-83415201636646823592018-04-05T16:13:09.274+12:002018-04-05T16:13:09.274+12:00Ardern is the author of her own ineptness and misf...Ardern is the author of her own ineptness and misfortune. She has failed to sack Curran when she should have (what would have Helen done), has let Winston run amok re the Russian debacle and kept mum on the Labour sex camp scandal, once again, she should have spilled blood, taking a leaf out of Clark's more ruthless and decisive playbook. Clearly Ardern is out of her depth as PM, and frankly, she looks really ill.<br />The media are simply reporting what they see, instead of the blind fawning that went on pre election. Actually, the media did roll her into power, via MMP and Winston, and now that the stardust has worn off, seem to be regretting that choice. The majority of voters knew better of course, endorsing National with he most votes. Oh, but MMP is maturing....even if we ended up with a govt we did not want.<br /><br />RonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-75435696321169221302018-04-05T14:54:06.083+12:002018-04-05T14:54:06.083+12:00After reading and hearing so much of NZ 'junio...After reading and hearing so much of NZ 'junioralism' one is left sputtering and thinking of French taunts for these invaders turning our democracy into a demockracy. This is the lowbrow response to these silly people who while away their time writing fantasies. And after the taunts there is a real political discussion!!<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yjNbcKkNYgreywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-16879832614223890972018-04-05T14:44:05.481+12:002018-04-05T14:44:05.481+12:00As I mentioned on a previous post it is time to sh...As I mentioned on a previous post it is time to show who is boss. National politicized state sector appointments, it's time to fire a few very publicly.Nick Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-12849575161167874212018-04-05T13:31:19.461+12:002018-04-05T13:31:19.461+12:00And "reportedly" John Key's biggest ...And "reportedly" John Key's biggest regret was not being able to change the NZ flag.<br /><br />I think you may be correct Chris in that continuing with more of the Easter type "pile on" by the MSM commentariat there will ultimately be a backfire. I am picking a few of the smarter commentators will be making moves to avoid being crushed in another "pile on". The real quality journalists have been conspicuous by their absence. <br /><br /> Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-48725751860758781362018-04-05T13:23:44.580+12:002018-04-05T13:23:44.580+12:00That's very true Chris. And the need for tho...That's very true Chris. And the need for thoughtful critical analysis of themselves is obvious to all thinking people looking at those journalists' unseemly 'Easter pile up' or ruck as NZers call it. Perhaps the problem is in the name - journalist - being reporter on the day's events. They need to think beyond the day, be looking back as well as forwards, januslists, bringing historical memory to the present and looking to the future as well.<br /><br />And talking in plain NZ terms so that denizens of our political school can understand, those journalists can 'go and boil your heads'. Then hang out in the sunshine till dry. Or dried out perhaps, as the frenzied tones of their reportage seem to indicate too much imbibing of high alcohol liquid along with the high-news-brew from the supposed high-brows. I, on behalf of the lowbrows, expect better.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-15475455126158238272018-04-05T13:22:17.308+12:002018-04-05T13:22:17.308+12:00Sorry to disagree with your point of view.
The deb...Sorry to disagree with your point of view.<br />The debacle of the youth camp, the cover up, to the intent of organisers that parents would not be told, was a disgrace to the Labour party.<br />Labours slyness piled on their own pressure.<br />Jacinda stayed silent to admonishment of her team.<br />She not a leader, simply a high paid bureaucrat.<br />Don't blame the press.Pollynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-89354112565243742712018-04-05T12:58:15.196+12:002018-04-05T12:58:15.196+12:00The media thinks it controls who governs in NZ? Wh...The media thinks it controls who governs in NZ? Who are they trying to convince? Certainly not somebody like me.peteswriteplacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474922953916383101noreply@blogger.com