tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post4684879833064464570..comments2024-03-20T02:06:23.614+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Why the Greater Good requires Americans to vote for the Lesser Evil – Hillary Clinton.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-90648103133763621512016-10-31T13:04:24.281+13:002016-10-31T13:04:24.281+13:00The greater evil?
1. He has used his bankruptcies...The greater evil?<br /><br />1. He has used his bankruptcies to further his own ends and make himself rich while ripping off other investors. I mean, there is pretty much no dispute about this. Legal though it is, it does show a lack of ethics.<br />2. Trump University has been categorized by Eric Schneiderman, the attorney general of New York as outright fraud. It is involved in at least two federal lawsuits, and was pretty much forced to close its doors in Texas, even though no court case was involved.<br />3. Trump's involvement in beauty pageants resulted in at least one out-of-court settlement for sexual harassment.<br />4. Trump was sued by the city of New York for discriminating in housing rentals on the basis of race.<br />5. Trump was forced to settle with tenants of one of his buildings who he tried to drive out by various unethical means, so he could tear the building down and create luxury apartments.<br />6. Trump has employed illegal workers on some of his buildings, paying them as little as three dollars an hour, yet one of his major platforms is immigration reform.<br />7. Trump has been fined many times for unethical business practices with regard to his casino operations.<br />8. He has almost certainly lied about his net worth, and refuses to release his taxes as is customary with presidential nominees.<br />9. Trump is constantly being sued by small business people – people who I would have thought you had a certain amount of sympathy for – for stiffing them on payments. And getting away with it, largely because they can't afford long involved court cases and he can.<br /><br />I am pretty much ashamed of America, that they can only produce these two out of three hundred odd million people. But if we are going to talk about corruption, militarism, exceptionalism, despoliation of the environment et cetera, then Trump deserves an honourable mention at the very least. Given the things that he has done, I doubt you can make a case for Hillary and being more corrupt than he is. And at least she does tend to keep her hands to herself.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-21368684505731101952016-10-27T20:29:38.340+13:002016-10-27T20:29:38.340+13:00The lesser evil.
A vote for Clinton is a vote for ...The lesser evil.<br />A vote for Clinton is a vote for the status quo.<br />It is a vote for "regime change" in any State that does not conform to the Judeo/Christian ideal of rampant capitalism.<br />It is a vote for what Hillary has promoted all over the World - fracking.<br />It is a vote for the maintenance of 800 military bases the U.S. has installed Worldwide.<br />It is a vote for the annihilation of any hope for an even remotely fair settlement of the Palestinian atrocity.<br />It is a vote for American exceptionalism.<br />It is a vote for the most overtly corrupt figure to feature in American politics for a long, long time.<br />It is a vote based on information promoted by a media the Clinton Telecommunications Act of 1996 enabled to go from 50 companies owning 90% of the media to 6 owning 90%.<br /><br />It is one of those moments in History when the Left gets very confused.Brewerstroupehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13011600547966200031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50315711094152349932016-10-25T17:59:59.280+13:002016-10-25T17:59:59.280+13:00GS
Point taken. I would add that, once a fashion ...GS<br /><br />Point taken. I would add that, once a fashion hits the US, it will probably hit everywhere, given a wee bit of time.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-37834999370572682112016-10-25T16:33:49.071+13:002016-10-25T16:33:49.071+13:00Grey Warbler ...The Charge of the Light Brigade is...Grey Warbler ...The Charge of the Light Brigade is supposed to have originated from a misunderstood directive <br /><br />This earlier Crimean war had at its very roots a willy waving dispute between the Catholics and the Russian Orthodox Church as to who was going to get custody of the Holy Sepulchre in Bethlehem under the Ottomans rule. Yes it was as trivial as that which makes the current dangerous US anti Russian vendetta with a salivating Clinton in its vanguard even more frightening. Clinton will be the last POTUS.Andrew Nicholsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-80312586915434006342016-10-25T14:41:36.471+13:002016-10-25T14:41:36.471+13:00http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-on-qaddafi-we-...http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-on-qaddafi-we-came-we-saw-he-died/<br />CBS is a US mainline media organisation. This is real footage of Hillary. "We came, we saw, he died" she boasts and giggles. This is the woman so many of you are craving to be the next person in charge of the nuclear button. Be very afraid.Nick Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-26748054939711281062016-10-25T12:31:46.807+13:002016-10-25T12:31:46.807+13:00Victor, I wasn't saying we should make it wors...Victor, I wasn't saying we should make it worse. I was just saying that Trump is merely part of a phenomenon, and while an important part, not the first.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-59430498686844989412016-10-23T07:43:36.254+13:002016-10-23T07:43:36.254+13:00http://www.salon.com/2016/10/22/michael-moore-in-t...http://www.salon.com/2016/10/22/michael-moore-in-trumpland-a-film-whose-surprising-healing-power-is-needed-now-more-than-ever/<br />I think a more nuanced view of Trump/Clinton and the whole American election is presented here, and may well be necessary.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-86379592047012189282016-10-22T23:53:21.858+13:002016-10-22T23:53:21.858+13:00GS
Yes it's already happening all over the pl...GS<br /><br />Yes it's already happening all over the place. Why make it worse?<br /><br />Patricia<br /><br />Why make it worse?Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-80660250911088324442016-10-22T21:51:49.589+13:002016-10-22T21:51:49.589+13:00I think we would be safer with Trump: he is pure M...I think we would be safer with Trump: he is pure Munro doctrine. Not so good for those inside America though. Hillary by comparison has a track record of ill judged hawkishness that scares the bejasus out of me.Nick Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-86953005899278510562016-10-22T14:59:18.002+13:002016-10-22T14:59:18.002+13:00Interesting take on Hills!
http://www.counterpunc...Interesting take on Hills!<br /><br />http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/21/hillary-clintons-strategic-ambition-in-a-nutshell/Bushbaptisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09657695593141243969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-25712443444247069912016-10-22T13:09:51.814+13:002016-10-22T13:09:51.814+13:00Victor, the world is not a safe place now. If you...Victor, the world is not a safe place now. If you think that the Clintons are the opposite of "racist, sexist, lying, xenophobic, fascitoid and ego tripping" and that the world would be a safer place with them then you are sadly mistakened. They fit those words exactly but they do it at a distance and oh so politely. The existing political system through out the world is in a bad way and in particular the American system. For the rest of the world there is the possibility of hope but not in America which is NOW the template for the rest of the World. Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01509686441858091630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-29217123530186874692016-10-22T11:25:37.914+13:002016-10-22T11:25:37.914+13:00Dispelling the Ralph Nader election myth of 2000. ...Dispelling the Ralph Nader election myth of 2000. http://www.cagreens.org/alameda/city/0803myth/myth.htmlA Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03137605831419059657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-6404800597835657272016-10-22T06:47:02.437+13:002016-10-22T06:47:02.437+13:00" others of the same ilk to triumph elsewhere..." others of the same ilk to triumph elsewhere."<br />Seems to me they already have. Russia, Turkey, Brazil?Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-41702503210470803852016-10-21T20:51:40.675+13:002016-10-21T20:51:40.675+13:00Patricia
You really should care what happens to A...Patricia<br /><br />You really should care what happens to America. What happens there may well become the template for the rest of the developed world. <br /><br />The triumph of a racist,sexist, lying, posturing, xenophobic, fascistoid, ego-tripping right wing bully in the US will make it all the easier for others of the same ilk to triumph elsewhere.<br /><br />Do you really think that would make the world a safer place?Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-1207557505623205832016-10-21T14:12:27.892+13:002016-10-21T14:12:27.892+13:00I've said it elsewhere, but supporting Trump b...I've said it elsewhere, but supporting Trump because Hillary is insufficiently pure is like supporting Hitler because Winston Churchill was a nasty imperialist redbaiter (which he was, but Hitler was worse, and saying this election outcome doesn't matter is like saying that WWII's outcome didn't matter. For goodness sake, does the Supreme Court mean nothing?).<br /><br />As for Jill Stein, even leaving aside her inability to grasp the way US Government operates, and even leaving aside her reprehensible courting of anti-vaxxers, the US Green Party exists to get Republicans elected (the Republicans move heaven and earth to try and get them on the ballot, for that very reason). The place to challenge Hillary from the Left was the primary - Bernie tried, and lost, but unlike Stein, Sanders actually has a brain, so he's backing Clinton. Some of us are also capable of remembering 2000, and how Ralph Nader's ego gave us George W. Bush.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-40639661748238560402016-10-21T13:58:03.839+13:002016-10-21T13:58:03.839+13:00@greywarbler
Turkey are also saying, I think that ...@greywarbler<br />Turkey are also saying, I think that they will pull out of NATO and align with Russia if Hillary wins. Erdogan is pissed off withe the US over its refusal to extradite Gulen, and Hillary's support for the Kurds looks like it would be the last straw.mikeshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-39735316547025563232016-10-21T11:37:45.113+13:002016-10-21T11:37:45.113+13:00I agree with David Stone. I would vote for Trump ...I agree with David Stone. I would vote for Trump if only because we know what the Clintons war history is and it is not pretty. And it would not stop with Hilary as President. If she does get in we will know what we are in for if Victoria Nuland, Samantha Power or Susan Rice are appointed to a position of power. I don't really care what happens to America but I do care about the damage it is and can afflict on other parts of the world.Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01509686441858091630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-70863383993273427332016-10-21T11:31:42.208+13:002016-10-21T11:31:42.208+13:00The problem with Trump's "policies" ...The problem with Trump's "policies" is that he lies – a lot. He's been fact checked, along with Hillary and found to issue a lie about every 3 minutes. He lies or shades the truth far more than she does. Now much of this is because he doesn't actually know anything and she does, but how can we judge what his policies are going to be, even if they are stated plainly? Trump is just a hollow man.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-58612552008858898012016-10-21T11:28:22.415+13:002016-10-21T11:28:22.415+13:00GS
No argument about Trump; I think Hillary w...GS<br /> No argument about Trump; I think Hillary will cooperate with whatever her advisers in the pentagon the state department and C I A advise. Thats what worries me. But it looks like Putin and Assad have got Aleppo under control or soon will have , so that crisis might be over especially as US allies are now engaged with an identical problem in Mosul.<br /><br /> If Mosul falls surprisingly easily it will be because a deal has been done to escort them safely to Raqqa . They won't leave the protection of their human shield unless they have been promised safe passage to another human shield. As you say we'll see.<br />Cheers D J SDavid Stonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-68317310959344819832016-10-21T09:28:52.184+13:002016-10-21T09:28:52.184+13:00If Trump gets in and can stand against new wars, t...If Trump gets in and can stand against new wars, then good. But he is a businessman and war is a profitable business for which there seems endless capital. It's money that counts; once a President with a hawkish bunch of pollies as senators or whatever they call themselves why should he not do the opposite to his previous declarations?<br /><br />Interesting on radio news Phillipines declared they are no longer attached to USA, but allying themselves with China and Russia against the rest of the world. I refreshed my info on Russia, and find that they are low on charts on-line for major currencies, population except for their huge land mass. Great if USA chose some decent foreign policies while they still are dominant and settled down to some rational work on climate change, sustainability and smart thinking. But headlong into the fray they go planning game-style wars from the comfort of their air conditioned palaces. <br /><br />The Charge of the Light Brigade is supposed to have originated from a misunderstood directive and perhaps inadequate intelligence. Same today with our current adventures. The faulty behaviours of today seem to be in our genes, coming from our subconscious while our brain is in automatic mode. The USA government doesn't exist. It is an enduring figment of someone's imagination, a vast Truman Show on which to hang expensive advertising because it has so much pulling power for the punters. The elections are just an extended memorial of a propaganda campaign about democracy which was actioned and is now known to be a failed experiment. Nothing left but to find somewhere to bury the toxic ashes. In the meantime we have the heads of Cold Lazarus embalmed and stimulated regularly to produce images and scenarios to excite the peeps into action.greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-83034286755639213302016-10-21T08:18:59.945+13:002016-10-21T08:18:59.945+13:00Well in crude terms, American women appear to have...Well in crude terms, American women appear to have a choice between the chance of being groped by Trump or nuked by Clinton.<br /><br />Neither are especially attractive options, neither are especially likely ... but mmmm choices, choices...RedLogixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-17415259092328318012016-10-21T06:43:51.669+13:002016-10-21T06:43:51.669+13:00" he has been consistent in saying he would a..." he has been consistent in saying he would avoid a war with Russia over Syria"<br /><br />Perhaps. And yet that's probably the only thing he has been consistent on. And actually says nothing about policy, because Trump doesn't actually have policies, he just makes off-the-cuff statements. And even with the president's wide powers over war, Clinton has to persuade her advisors, and the armed forces. And I don't think even she would risk outright war with Russia. Time will tell I guess, and I must say this gives me another reason to be glad I live at the other end of the bloody world.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-53109082827183342512016-10-21T01:36:30.502+13:002016-10-21T01:36:30.502+13:00I am convinced that the USA will be at war with Ru...I am convinced that the USA will be at war with Russia inside the first two years of a Clinton presidency. There will be no crowing if I'm right because we will all be screwed. This abject failure of the misaerable minority of yanks who get off their butts to vote should be the trigger for a UN supervised contest where we in the civilised non american world bring the planet and all its inhabitants back from imminent catastrophe and choose a sane candidate for them (and us - given the nracissitic b...stards claim to be the Leader of the Free world.Andrew Nicholsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-73460528322217965962016-10-21T00:18:21.040+13:002016-10-21T00:18:21.040+13:00I agree with you, Chris.
In such circumstances, n...I agree with you, Chris.<br /><br />In such circumstances, not to vote for the lesser of two evils is to cast half a vote for the greater of two evils.<br /><br />But I also agree that Hillary's hawkishness is cause for deep concern. If elected, I hope she doesn't give State to Susan Rice or Samantha Powers.Victornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-6010574834267183362016-10-20T19:50:03.865+13:002016-10-20T19:50:03.865+13:00It sets nerves tingling to see all that can be off...It sets nerves tingling to see all that can be offered from a huge country are these two sock puppets, as the deprecatory slang goes.<br />More tingly still after listening to Tedtalk from Sam Harris about AI (Artificial Intelligence) that seems bound to finish us off.<br />See links. Could be interesting to start thinking about this and leave Atlantis alone to search for itself.<br /><br />Sam Harris 14 mins 2016 Tedtalk on AI<br />(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_sSpPyruj0<br /><br />2hours plus Published on Aug 22, 2016<br />A compilation of all conversations Sam Harris has had on the topic of AI.<br />(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm9CwlBI8uA<br /><br />I think we are still thinking of AI as a marvellous toy. Here is my offering of Peter Paul and Mary singing to the little kiddies about that<br />Marvellous Toy. Nostalgia. Nostalgia isn't what it was, it is now what happened yesterday! We are too old and weary for toys so what are we going to do with AI? Our present political systems are completely dysfunctional so can't look to politicians to make even the most needed changes to enable legislation requested for our journey through life and death.<br />(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLYefZkOMB0greywarblernoreply@blogger.com