tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post528783876771575113..comments2024-03-29T00:44:42.046+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Parting Shots.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-37931839162195081242022-08-19T09:31:31.595+12:002022-08-19T09:31:31.595+12:00Interesting Phil. I was actually wondering if what...Interesting Phil. I was actually wondering if what the good doctor got was similar to Keith Holyoake's advice to new MPs to – what was it – breathe through their mouth?Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-13075587846662297602022-08-16T19:24:11.005+12:002022-08-16T19:24:11.005+12:00As one who has been a Labour member for most of th...As one who has been a Labour member for most of the past 40 years, I can at least speak from experience unlike some here.<br />Chris, you have various axes to grind re Afghanistan. There's no doubt in my mind that Dr Sharma has over reacted to the normal and reasonable pressure within a party caucus (whether Labour, Green or otherwise) to be team player. He's going to fail in the role of MP unless he is a fast learner. I hope he uses the time he's been given wisely. <br /><br />And, well said, Grey Warbler.Phil Saxbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-88753204252597611472022-08-16T08:18:45.314+12:002022-08-16T08:18:45.314+12:00My God. Neil Oliver has completely lost it. Beyond...My God. Neil Oliver has completely lost it. Beyond eccentricity. :) GB news is another cesspit.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-21201545313995261812022-08-15T19:08:20.366+12:002022-08-15T19:08:20.366+12:00Just as it did for most Hamiltonians, Sharma’s vic...<i>Just as it did for most Hamiltonians, Sharma’s victory in Hamilton West would have come as a mighty shock.</i><br /><br />Um, no.<br /><br />Hamilton West is a bellwether. It tends to go Labour or National depending on who wins the party vote nationwide. National won it four times running because it won the nationwide vote four times running.<br /><br />Everyone expected Labour to win the party vote in 2020, so everyone expected it (or should have expected it) to win Hamilton West. The rather bluer Hamilton East was a tougher nut to crack. DShttps://phuulishfellow.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-27057926881947362742022-08-15T16:26:37.881+12:002022-08-15T16:26:37.881+12:00Excellent piece Mr Trotter...all the more so becau...Excellent piece Mr Trotter...all the more so because you were once "tribal Labour"...Well done Sir.David Garrettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-54348264665816980962022-08-15T11:38:31.345+12:002022-08-15T11:38:31.345+12:00Excellent piece Mr Trotter...all the more so becau...Excellent piece Mr Trotter...all the more so because you were once "tribal Labour"...Well done Sir.David Garrettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-38293695877888938802022-08-15T10:08:10.913+12:002022-08-15T10:08:10.913+12:00The problem with the political environment describ...The problem with the political environment described by Dr Sharma is tragic, but not as fundamental as that described by Neil Oliver (The Coast Guy) in this statement on GB News:<br /><br />https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1558708486686523392?s=20&t=UeZVoikOIcqr_Q3fhpk-kg<br /><br />Once you have seen it, you cannot unsee it.Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-90588413409609595112022-08-14T13:11:20.541+12:002022-08-14T13:11:20.541+12:00Quote CT: "GAURAV SHARMA has clearly had enou...Quote CT: "GAURAV SHARMA has clearly had enough of parliamentary life".<br /><br />WHO'oops ... Err ... apparently not. <br /><br />Today's Sunday Herald quotes GS/him as saying ... "he (GS) would like to run for the Labour Party!!! ... again in next year's election".<br /><br />Err ... snowballs or Hobsons? LARRY N MITCHELLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-38141409099338879252022-08-14T13:10:53.021+12:002022-08-14T13:10:53.021+12:00"Is it just me or are the same people that we..."Is it just me or are the same people that were saying that 10 years old is a great age for criminal responsibility now saying that good old Sam shouldn't be judged on something he did age 16?"<br />Found this on the MSN website, where the comments section is a cesspit, but it does sum up the hypocrisy of conservatives. Or at least a certain type of conservative very common there.<br />Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-67995876530148756062022-08-14T12:58:34.603+12:002022-08-14T12:58:34.603+12:00Similar sorts of comments from Chris though David....Similar sorts of comments from Chris though David. Don't tell me there is no bullying in the National party – Muldoon was an expert. Not only a bully but he managed to ruin a couple of people's lives.<br />Remember these?<br />"Two members of the party, who are part of the Young Nats, have resigned after allegations of bullying and online harassment of female politicians. Jesse MacKenzie subsequently outed himself as the individual responsible."<br />"In 2018, the party faced criticism of its culture after it was revealed ex-MP Maggie Barry had been accused of bullying. Last year, claims were addressed at MP Nick Smith for bullying, harassing and swearing at staffers."<br /><br />Fascinating how you seem to be able to ignore the beam in your eye. :) Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-58059447254834252882022-08-14T08:05:32.624+12:002022-08-14T08:05:32.624+12:00They had Jacinda on TV "explaining" the ...They had Jacinda on TV "explaining" the Sharma revelations. <br /><br />Main points; A/ Of course we take bullying seriously (really?) and B/ we're very concerned for his mental health - blame the victim, deflection and gaslighting.<br /><br />She really is a piece of work but rarely gets called out for her BS.David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-7040911369391273842022-08-14T06:57:03.139+12:002022-08-14T06:57:03.139+12:00To clarify; my earlier comment "conclusion&qu...To clarify; my earlier comment "conclusion" was from Sharma's Facebook post. You can read the whole thing on FB or copied here: https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2022/08/dr_sharmas_allegations.html<br /><br />Chris: "a master-class in the art of dismissing, diminishing and disparaging an individual"<br /><br />This morning's (Sunday's) Herald seem to have memory holed the whole thing. They seem weirdly obsessed with National however; a couple of new opinion pieces up on the oppositions problems.<br /><br />David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-14321292326315303572022-08-13T22:10:28.672+12:002022-08-13T22:10:28.672+12:00Pure popcorn. Labour's hit job on National has...Pure popcorn. Labour's hit job on National has exploded in their faces with spectacular force. Labour have been the nasty party for as long back as I can remember. Brave Dr Sharma, daring to burn his bridges with Labour and to bring their unwholesome bullying culture to light. He also just helped Luxon win the next election with an even bigger majority. OOOOOh it's all so deliciious!!! Ardern will not be doing a celebration dance...<br /><br /><br />Sam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-33453698965679363312022-08-13T16:46:04.077+12:002022-08-13T16:46:04.077+12:00Frankly I am amazed at the totally negative things...Frankly I am amazed at the totally negative things some commenters habitually say, generalising about everything, sweeping poison across the ground of discussion. It shows how hard it is to form a decent polity following reasonable, agreed, moral and life-affirming rules for all.<br /> <br />I liked this comment for its spot-on description of the type leading to my understanding:<br /><i>...historic, endemic, habitual toxicity is always just below the scummy surface</i>greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-14856690256050907392022-08-13T12:32:59.068+12:002022-08-13T12:32:59.068+12:00Goldsmith to Kiri Allen leads to a reversal of pos...Goldsmith to Kiri Allen leads to a reversal of positions where National sacked ECan and went Woke with the Iwi Corp<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDVb5beIZl0&t=5sJohn Hurleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-58274363299518814452022-08-13T10:00:58.465+12:002022-08-13T10:00:58.465+12:00Quote: "Sharma appears to have entered Parli...Quote: "Sharma appears to have entered Parliament without the necessary acculturation to the vicious political environment of the New Zealand Labour Party".<br /><br />Oh touche Mr Trotter ... and such a facility of phrase. <br /><br />The Labour Party's historic, endemic, habitual toxicity is always just below the scummy surface.<br /><br />"Nice"?? ... gimme a break. LARRY MITCHELLhttp://www.cprlifesaver.co.nznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-83213541783429545372022-08-13T09:56:28.434+12:002022-08-13T09:56:28.434+12:00I think what this article describes is the malaise...I think what this article describes is the malaise of party politics. Party politics was anathema to the Founding Fathers of the United States Republic, as it was to political leaders of the United Kingdom following the Great Rebellion and the end of the Cromwellian Commonwealth. Unfortunately, it did not take long for party politics to become cemented in to the political framework of both nations.<br /><br />At the time the US achieved its separation from the British Imperium, a little old lady once asked Ben Franklin, 'What have you given us?'<br />'Ma'am,' said the Great Man, 'We have given you the Republic.'<br />He continued, 'Let's see how long you can keep it!'<br /><br />In my view, the Republic - and by extension, subsequently, all but the pretence of Democracy - was lost, the moment that political parties became institutions. That is probably why I have never been tempted to join a political party - ANY political party. In this country the Labour Party has a long history of its 'leadership' subverting the grassroots in a manner that sets democracy on its head. That I regard politicians by and large (with a very few exceptions) as worthless, probably hasn't helped. Clearly, Mr Sharma was no politician.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />Ion A. Dowman<br /><br />Archduke Piccolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533325665451889661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-40490971232799338312022-08-13T04:31:06.916+12:002022-08-13T04:31:06.916+12:00Conclusion:
⁃In summary, I stand by my claims tha...Conclusion:<br /><br />⁃In summary, I stand by my claims that I have been subjected to ongoing<br />bullying by the Parliamentary Service and the Labour Whips and none of<br />my concerns have been investigated. Neither has there been an<br />investigation into any claims against me as per the last written contact<br />from the Deputy CEO of Parliamentary Service. I didn’t just wake up on<br />the wrong side of the bed one day and made these serious claims. For<br />1.5years I have been trying to seek independent investigation, justice<br />and support from Parliamentary Service, Labour Whips and the PMO. I also<br />want to clearly state that despite what Duncan Webb says it has always<br />been my belief that the country should always come ahead of any party.<br />If I ever have to choose between party and country my allegiance will<br />always be with the country first.<br /><br /><br />David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-86631299922092896982022-08-12T22:09:12.764+12:002022-08-12T22:09:12.764+12:00"Government means Labour ". "The P..."Government means Labour ". "The Party comes before the country ". We owe Sharma a debt of gratitude for these Orwellian insights. Good luck to him, he is clearly too honourable to suffer these fools for another term. I expect there will be more revelations as those low down on Labour's list realize they are not going to be re elected. Three years of humiliation for very little indeed.<br />Trev1https://www.blogger.com/profile/00271717267778957672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-73436149260144596402022-08-12T15:55:51.787+12:002022-08-12T15:55:51.787+12:00Sharma's primary misdemeanour is to not unders...Sharma's primary misdemeanour is to not understand that his own frustrations with the brutal culture of party politics are trivial and unimportant - compared to the harm that a National/ACT government would unleash on the people who voted for him. His secondary misdemeanour is to be so naive as to express these frustrations to the New Zealand Herald - little more than the media arm of the National Party and a bitter enemy of the left.ABnoreply@blogger.com