tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post6157872425283114088..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: A Very American Coup?Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-6526545916762694482020-11-18T11:24:52.965+13:002020-11-18T11:24:52.965+13:00This is a crisis which could have been avoided if ...This is a crisis which could have been avoided if the political class had paid attention to the dangers inherent in the secret ballot. But the secret ballot has become essential to their hold on power, so fraud and allegations of fraud will be the order of the day for both left and right throughout the western "democracies" for some while.<br />And don't say that it can't happen here. It will be far easier to carry out a coup under New Zealand's system of non-constitutional monarchy that it will be in the United States.<br />The open ballot is the only form of election consistent with genuine and transparent democracy.Geoff Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00509885628971898371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-20460846929331408052020-11-17T22:58:48.318+13:002020-11-17T22:58:48.318+13:00here is one other force that can stop Trump - the ...here is one other force that can stop Trump - the judiciary. Not one of his campaign's lawsuits has been upheld; none will be, since their lack of substantive merit is glaringly obvious. If there is to be serious constitutional crisis, it will come about by one or more state legislatures simply ignoring the popular vote and appointing Trump's nominees as electors. At that point, intervention by the Supreme Court would be required. How would they vote? I suspect that a constitutional coup of that sort would be too much for even Trump's appointees to stomach. They would overrule the rogue legislatures, and then ... Brian O'Briennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-56050024424582493012020-11-13T15:09:31.501+13:002020-11-13T15:09:31.501+13:00Trump and his supporting representatives are seeki...Trump and his supporting representatives are seeking to have some issues they have with the election examined by the legal system of the US. I don't see any suggestion of them seeking redress anywhere else. The article seems to assume that redress by appealing to the law is not a valid remedy to a perceived corruption of their democratic process. I submit that it is an essential part of the democratic structure. If the courts find fault it should be remedied. If they don't find fault on a scale large enough to require re running some poles then the apparent winner will become the next president. And Trump will be disappointed like many before him and go back to his day job like anyone else.<br /> The suggestion is made elsewhere that the spate of sackings is about de escalating occupations in Syria and Afghanistan while he still can, far more than staging a ridiculous coup at home. If he was looking for an inspired last hurrah it would be to pardon Julian Assange. That would get him a certainty for the next presidential in 2024 if he is still standing up.<br /> D J SDavid Stonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-15878311592051060542020-11-13T14:06:54.273+13:002020-11-13T14:06:54.273+13:00My confidence in the American Constitution, which ...My confidence in the American Constitution, which were shaken both by the election of Trump and by his ignoring it in many instances, has been somewhat restored. I don't think Trump is attempting a coup. Particularly as the head of the army has said a is going to keep it out of politics. I think all this hooha is simply Trump keeping his base in a state of agitation so they will send him money, so he can pay off some of his huge debts. After all, the money train has pretty much stopped. And given that New York is almost certainly going to indict him for some form of tax evasion, he and other members of his family are thankfully going to end up in jail – we hope. But as somebody said recently, as long as poor white people in the states see themselves with no future, and under threat by minorities, they are going to be susceptible to populists like Trump. Because being beholden to large donors, left-wing parties can do no more for the working class these days then tinker around the edges. Mind you, in the US that gives them a lot more flexibility than it might here, if only for something like Medicare for all which most developed countries have something akin to anyway. If some of these populista are genuine left of centre politicians, that might be a good thing. But just at the moment, most of them seem to be considerably to the right of centre. Populist, neoliberal, racist.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-87827127032769280242020-11-13T10:31:42.383+13:002020-11-13T10:31:42.383+13:00Maybe, maybe not. Trump, I feel, will run out of t...Maybe, maybe not. Trump, I feel, will run out of time.As soon as Biden is signed up, as they say, as the legally elected president, he will need to have Trump arrested for treason, or whatever he is guilty of. Biden will have to mobilise all the functions of state to support his new presidency.petes new writehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00256560029674496199noreply@blogger.com