tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post6196425693912143233..comments2024-03-29T17:12:19.648+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Something Fishy About Nick Smith's GameChris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-74858925379472520042014-08-02T22:35:57.392+12:002014-08-02T22:35:57.392+12:00Thanks for that, Greywarbler - duly corrected.Thanks for that, Greywarbler - duly corrected.Chris Trotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-2757987120410062902014-08-02T18:12:41.845+12:002014-08-02T18:12:41.845+12:00Hi Chris I noticed this -
" “Brat Packers”, ...Hi Chris I noticed this -<br />" “Brat Packers”, Bill English, Roger Sowry and Tony Ryle" should be Ryall.<br />greywarblernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-79555663597041598792014-08-01T21:01:20.505+12:002014-08-01T21:01:20.505+12:00Well said Kerry! Plenty of positive news about the...Well said Kerry! Plenty of positive news about the environment around-it just doesn't sell newspapers.Jigsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906156865367357834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-71492327783216681532014-07-31T10:23:17.465+12:002014-07-31T10:23:17.465+12:00Don't buy into the Green's rubbish. Jigsaw...Don't buy into the Green's rubbish. Jigsaw pointed out that it's 60% of monitored rivers, something like 90% of which are within 10km of urban areas. This doesn't mean farmers are dodging their part of the responsibility. Farmers have fenced 40,000km of waterways and all have built effluent ponds and do soil testing. Now they will have water tested going into, and coming out of their farms so Nick Smith has a point when he chastises F&G (who I otherwise respect) for being mindlessly anti-farming. They should criticise farming where criticism is due, but not rabidly and mindlessly, and they should praise farming where improvements have been made. Farmers have come to the table with fresh water so let's give them the time of day and start considering how urbanites can pay their share now.Kerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-5284940804186465402014-07-30T13:00:58.986+12:002014-07-30T13:00:58.986+12:00The 60% thing is really a first cousin to a lie. T...The 60% thing is really a first cousin to a lie. The rivers tested were all-as I understand it- those within 10 km of urban areas and 61% of those were polluted to that degree. The figure was them extrapolated up to say that 60% of ALL New Zealand rivers were so polluted - not at all the same thing.<br />Not to say that we should be complacent-quite the contrary and I have been vocal locally in the past in being critical of farmers and councils for their performance but deliberately distorting the problem is unlikely to help.<br />As am example we still have stock trucks in this area that are either not fitted with effluent holidng tanks or allow them to overflow and nothing is being done. Trails of sh** along the roads wash into all the drains and creeks. This is something that could be fixed quite easily and quickly in my opinion.Jigsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906156865367357834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-37963456345746899632014-07-29T14:17:58.652+12:002014-07-29T14:17:58.652+12:00The whole conflict between the finite reality of e...The whole conflict between the finite reality of existence and the infinite greed of humans will indeed end in grief. I have come more to the view that no matter what efforts we make to control our "isms" we will drive ourselves to disaster. Even if we could make neo liberalism pay for external costs such as pollution, and a fair share for their abuse of the commons, I doubt that the whole greed/growth phenomenon would end. <br /><br />My only hope for our rivers is for energy shortage and economic collapse: it would appear to be the only possible way for our environment to avoid the desolation that results from infinite "growth". Not nice or desirable, but I am convinced inevitable as a result of our greed.Ennuinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-27411800742159790042014-07-29T12:06:14.564+12:002014-07-29T12:06:14.564+12:00Just as Ms Street and many of the old Jim Anderton...Just as Ms Street and many of the old Jim Anderton supporters should have followed Lianne Dalziel out of the Party as well as the outdated right in the form of Goff and A.King the same should be said for Smith and English who are outdated National Country paternalists.<br /> The Smith/Oldfield coup against the CRC was an outrage against democracy passing dairy farms into the hands of many operators or marginal competence and have led to widespread consent violation which is why the CRC was careful and slow in issuing consents.<br /> My own view is that 'pure' NZ milk is a rather fattening product and should be adulterated to 50% purity so as not to damage the long term sexual attractiveness of NZ women. Our 25 year old female students often have too much heft to be attractive to the modern euro male by the time they get to London and Sth France or even Berlin.<br /> Increasing milk production seems equally doubtful from the point of view of maintaining control of franchising and selling companies in China. Surely we should have adopted a more even handed approach and helped develop trade with Japan and the US equally.<br /> it would be interesting to here the Nick Smith speeches as President of the Canterbury student union to his closed exec.Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-36268753936726677582014-07-29T01:28:04.728+12:002014-07-29T01:28:04.728+12:00Listening to Nick Smith being interviewed on Natio...Listening to Nick Smith being interviewed on National Radio, he used the weasel language of marketing to describe the National Governments' approach to the environment. The approach is about `balance'. It made me realise he is not the Conservation Minister but the Minister in charge of marketing environmental degradation. Where I occasionally live and work, not only is there no fresh water, there is no blue sky, no birds, no insects (except cockroaches). Nature has been silenced. Man dominates completely. Last summer was the hottest ever experienced. It felt like we were being microwaved. The future is here but it is not too late for New Zealand.<br />ShanghaiSuenoreply@blogger.com