tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post7335060671512659390..comments2024-03-29T00:44:42.046+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: NZ First’s Radical Conservatism Must Triumph Before Labour-Greens’ Radical Progressivism Can Succeed.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-33988827199358522532018-09-26T13:51:08.763+12:002018-09-26T13:51:08.763+12:00@GS, National are not imploding but are fast becom...@GS, National are not imploding but are fast becoming politically irrelevant. And your "cleansing" comment is right on the money as there has to be some blood letting in order for change. The big question right now for those on the outside is who within is really steering the National leaky boat. Or is it truly rudderless. Interesting times ahead. Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-27557374052301525822018-09-25T14:42:07.463+12:002018-09-25T14:42:07.463+12:00Jesus Peter – I'd like to know where you got y...Jesus Peter – I'd like to know where you got your ideas about National imploding from, because I don't see any signs of it myself. If there are any problems, they'll do a quick in-house "cleansing" and be back on track such as it is. They're still pretty popular according to the polls unfortunately. And it seems to me inherently more stable than a coalition. Still, I'm willing to be persuaded.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-68023771745948828772018-09-23T20:08:10.273+12:002018-09-23T20:08:10.273+12:00Exaggerations Chris. They have been going for just...Exaggerations Chris. They have been going for just a year. You reckon any party could jump ship and go to the other side? Give Winston a little more credit. National will implode during the next year, and Labour could influence an early election - after- Winston was given a knighthood and overseas post.peteswriteplacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474922953916383101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-5301067263327653532018-09-22T08:40:42.432+12:002018-09-22T08:40:42.432+12:00"NZ First’s Radical Conservatism Must Triumph..."NZ First’s Radical Conservatism Must Triumph Before Labour-Greens’ Radical Progressivism Can Succeed."<br />Is this just a comment on the necessity to allow NZ First to achieve at least some of its objects in order to preserve the coalition arrangement? In other words, is it just a matter of managing the coalition sensibly? <br />Or is there a deeper import to the statement, a sense that unless the interests of these three disparate parties can be permanently alloyed, rather than merely temporarily allied, there will be no radical transformation of New Zealand society through the medium of the current parliament?<br />If that is the case, it is a major challenge to the coalition parties, and their respective constituencies. <br />Are Green and Labour voters willing to critically re-examine their attachment to economic and social liberalism? <br />Are New Zealand First voters ready to move away from their conservative attachment to the era of Anglo-American colonialism?<br />While the Realm of New Zealand is a deeply flawed and compromised democracy, it is still a democracy of sorts, and political parties are constrained by voter sentiment. They can either lead change in the thinking of their constituents, or resign themselves to political inertia and simply wait for the winds of change to blow through the electorate. <br />I believe it most likely that they will take the latter option. Change, when it comes, will come from outside of parliament in the form of a morally conservative, nationalistic working class movement of economic, social and political revolution. These are the only conditions in which radical change will be possible.<br />The left appears to have forgotten that the twentieth revolutions in China, Cuba and Vietnam, like the democratic revolutions of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries in Europe, succeeded through a spirit of moral conviction, self-discipline and sacrifice - the antithesis of the return to self-interest and the individual pursuit of happiness which characterizes the liberal left.<br />New Zealand First on the other hand fails to understand firstly that British colonialism has done its dash and secondly that the enervated national capitalism has already capitulated to its global overlords. <br />The coalition parties as a whole fail to realize that there is no salvation to be had for our people from either the Anglo-American global empire or the demoralized remnants of New Zealand national capitalism.<br />So do not expect this government to be either radically conservative, or radically progressive. It will bumble along the well-beaten broadly neo-liberal colonialist track until it runs out of steam or falls apart.Geoff Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00509885628971898371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-79817455468022827292018-09-21T20:42:12.311+12:002018-09-21T20:42:12.311+12:00@ Kiwidave
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D J S@ Kiwidave<br /><br /> Syria<br />D J SDavid Stonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-78400117822034390342018-09-21T16:30:30.335+12:002018-09-21T16:30:30.335+12:00@GS "Do I detect a touch of sexism?"
Tha...@GS "Do I detect a touch of sexism?"<br />That would be the understatement of the year. But I suspect Polly is just another right wing nut job troll using provocative language to rev up left leaning blogs. There are many setting the tone out there in the MSM that provide the necessary fodder; Hosking, Hooton, Hawkesby, Du Plessis-Allan.......... et al.<br /><br /> Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-16423184817351649852018-09-21T13:03:31.564+12:002018-09-21T13:03:31.564+12:00"Jacinda Ardern is not a leader but who got t..."Jacinda Ardern is not a leader but who got the leadership of the Party because Grant Robertson did not want it."<br />Funny, she's sacked two ministers so far. If this were national Prime Minister you'd all be going on about what a strong leader they were. Do I detect a touch of sexism?Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-69521402828701343442018-09-21T08:13:17.549+12:002018-09-21T08:13:17.549+12:00Thank you for the fascinating essay Chris.
This al...Thank you for the fascinating essay Chris.<br />This all sounds pretty good to me:"New Zealand whose provinces thrived; whose families felt secure; whose culture was proudly British (with just a smidgen of Maoritanga thrown in for good measure) and whose future was something to be shaped by the hands of its own people – not the talons of a rapacious and globalised capitalism."<br />Can someone help me; just what does this "radical conservatives’ programme" involve and what would our economy our institutions our nation be like with the removal/destruction/replacement of "neoliberalism"? Any examples of this in other countries?David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-49050597701388088172018-09-20T16:16:34.524+12:002018-09-20T16:16:34.524+12:00Excellent article:
Most NZ'rs now realise that...Excellent article:<br />Most NZ'rs now realise that we are being governed by a dogs breakfast of politicians who pretend to be unified.<br />NZ First seem to have their feet on the ground, but public trust in Winnie and his political Party is not improving. The brawl he had with Sir Owen Glen about money has forever sullied Winnie and hence his Party.<br />Jacinda Ardern is not a leader but who got the leadership of the Party because Grant Robertson did not want it.<br />Jacinda likes to pose for glamour photo's, however I am not assured that our Country is in safe hands by these frequent glamour tit@bum tactics. I do not accept she contributes anything else of substance.<br />The Greens are a bunch of unprincipled bludgers whose twisting, turning and final dumping on their Kermedec Islands policy showed to me their gross, dirty and political cowardliness.<br />Finally in a attempt to get some of these poser political Parties out of our democracy, I suggest that a Political Party must get at least 10 per-centum of the vote to represent in Parliament. <br /><br /><br />Polly.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-7535516138206197072018-09-20T12:46:45.033+12:002018-09-20T12:46:45.033+12:00Could not agree more with this opinion piece.
You...Could not agree more with this opinion piece.<br /><br />You wrote a bit to soon, as Winston has accepted the doubling of our refugee programme. And good on him - for all our country's problems we are still relatively prosperous and a safe haven for those born into less fortunate parts of the planet.<br /><br />I usually vote New Zealand First because they are the only party to oppose the neoliberal juggernaut. And I am a staunch trade unionist. So not all of NZF's supporters are Pakeha conservatives.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933320334462324482noreply@blogger.com