tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post8171185984073388735..comments2024-03-29T11:07:51.893+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: What If Jacinda Was Suddenly Taken From Us – Like “Big Norm”?Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-55403424633459229782019-09-05T22:00:35.664+12:002019-09-05T22:00:35.664+12:00Thanks for bouncing down to the bottom as ever, le...Thanks for bouncing down to the bottom as ever, letters column -- can see the advantage, being suffused with far, far too many opinions.<br /><br />Saddened by Bernard Hickey's Stuff column today about Labour's take-back of the 100,000 house goal. Someone, elsewhere, suggested Labour never repairs the damage of National despite what they say. But no one doubts Kirk would do something. Oh me, oh mi, what is the difference? Roge. Or, a revolution is necessary in Labour. It's as simple, in this media age, as a voice people can't deny. Bernie and Jeremy. sumsuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133092096534660472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50966345855533847302019-09-01T07:51:55.455+12:002019-09-01T07:51:55.455+12:00Jacinda does not model herself on Norman Kirk or M...Jacinda does not model herself on Norman Kirk or Mickey Savage or even Helen Clark. With consort and child, she mimics the young Elizabeth, presiding over a multi-cultural commonwealth, employing the symbolism of the korowai and the hijab wherever such symbols and the words that accompany them can be used to ease grievance and allay discontent among her people.<br />She eschews the political. Politics is the responsibility of her ministers, and more particularly of her state officials. As symbol of the nation she herself is above politics.<br />We have accepted Jacinda in her chosen role. Our people petition her as in days gone by they petitioned Queen Victoria and King George for redress of grievances, and the results of their petitions are also as in days gone by. She may listen graciously. She displays compassion when it is politically appropriate to do so. She leaves the decisions to others, and some of us are content with that.<br />Jacinda reigns but she does not rule. Her role is not to transform or redeem but to personify the nation as a pure ideal.<br />Do not expect her to be a Norman Kirk, far less a Michael Joseph Savage.<br /><br /> Geoff Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00509885628971898371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-17610158020004860592019-08-31T16:47:09.766+12:002019-08-31T16:47:09.766+12:00Trouble is that the only thing Adern has delivered...Trouble is that the only thing Adern has delivered is promises. What a hopeless individual. Jaysnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-76964094833350222092019-08-31T12:07:46.003+12:002019-08-31T12:07:46.003+12:00Norman Kirk, short on detail but certainly the cha...Norman Kirk, short on detail but certainly the charisma to inspire. You can argue the same applies to Jacinda Ardern. Not sure though that NK ever lost the gloss the way Ardern has in recent months. We are of course comparing two quite different eras, FPP vs MMP, but one does have to wonder if we will see a repeat of Kirk's one term government in 2020. <br /><br />Chris ... we will, most times, agree to disagree but I enjoy your musings as an honest socialist. Keep on keeping on.The Veteranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14891277269689963701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-19970859738705571712019-08-31T10:05:37.986+12:002019-08-31T10:05:37.986+12:00Like Kirk, Ardern converted here youthful religios...Like Kirk, Ardern converted here youthful religiosity into the cult of politics. Both politicians arrived at the right time to capitalise on a Victimhood Culture cycle. But Prime Ministers don't set they tide, they have to ride it. When being the 'fairy on our Christmas tree' loses currency these cults of personality are doomed. Kirk gets to stay in New Zealand because he's dead but Jacinda will need new pastures for her 2020s. <br /><br />Perhaps she can catch the next VC wave as a granny and rule again? I don't know, I'm not her career advisor. Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06315796390662297759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-74485480131774587062019-08-31T08:50:53.181+12:002019-08-31T08:50:53.181+12:00Jacinda's legacy is "they are us" an...Jacinda's legacy is "they are us" and it's echo "who are we then?". Also censorship -the Christchurch call. Since Brexit and Trump there has been a doubling down through censorship and <i>up the volume</i>. <br /><br />Jacinda's world is the world of the limousine liberal brought to us by a MSM who are at the wrong end of a trust spectrum. They are hiding unpleasant facts about what could have been a better world for the average New Zealander<br />https://youtu.be/Q7gypBpOz9gJohn Hurleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-3765638743199391912019-08-31T08:46:26.156+12:002019-08-31T08:46:26.156+12:00"Courage. Vision. A principled refusal to ste..."Courage. Vision. A principled refusal to step back when confronted with the concentrated malice of the Powers-That-Be."<br />Yeah maybe, but Norman Kirk was the epitome of your Kiwi bloke at the time. Distrusted educated people, socially extremely conservative. What he might have become as a matter of speculation, and maybe hope.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-24953217453555458572019-08-30T17:18:46.107+12:002019-08-30T17:18:46.107+12:00Like Big Norm Jacinda Ardern is the benevolent dic...Like Big Norm Jacinda Ardern is the benevolent dictator this country needs. If the electorate at large was smart she would get the mandate. Lets see what happens with the smarts at 2020 election.Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-14614328002623951602019-08-30T12:55:24.978+12:002019-08-30T12:55:24.978+12:00No, we will never know. NZ and the free world los...No, we will never know. NZ and the free world lost a champion. But Muldoon'd destruction of the NZ Superannuation Scheme(illegally done, should have gone through Parliament) has left the country a poorer place.peteswriteplacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474922953916383101noreply@blogger.com