tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post8665378603539055364..comments2024-03-28T21:25:08.138+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: A Reason To VoteChris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-10475339359727073152014-05-03T10:45:05.026+12:002014-05-03T10:45:05.026+12:00David Cunliffe seems to be finding his feet and I ...David Cunliffe seems to be finding his feet and I agree with his views that our people are not just a commodity for the rich to exploit. My criticsm of David is that he perhaps tries to be too smooth and he will always be battling the allegation that he is trying to be like John Key (Mr Smoothie). Would like to see him adopt a slightly more aggressive style to make Key look just like the Mr Feelgood that he is. Marcusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-57892149039739227542014-05-02T20:03:10.141+12:002014-05-02T20:03:10.141+12:00I begrudgingly contribute to ctu and would sooner ...I begrudgingly contribute to ctu and would sooner commit seppuku than vote lab green ... So count me outBinders full of womennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-10480633000154942562014-05-01T12:59:09.817+12:002014-05-01T12:59:09.817+12:00Yes I am sure that you believe that Chris-it remin...Yes I am sure that you believe that Chris-it reminds me that Derek Fox once said that people with Maori ancestry would one day be in the majority and therefor we would have Maori government. Just because someone is gay doesn't necessarily mean that he/she will vote for a Labour government just because there are more gays in that party. Surely there is at least as much diversity of political opinion within the gay community as there is within the population in general. The fact is that with the loss of Shane Jones Labour just further narrowed its appeal base within the population especially the working class population. My point was that if they realised it or not they were celebrating the loss of part of their support. Or perhaps you are saying that the Labour party doesn't have any factions.........Jigsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906156865367357834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-90143608744015711142014-04-30T17:10:24.083+12:002014-04-30T17:10:24.083+12:00Whether Cunliffe or Parker are left or right remai...Whether Cunliffe or Parker are left or right remains undeterminable. Their actual policy seems technocratic and competent. National in contrast have the most incompetent cabinet since 1920's. Collins, Tolley and Parika are a farce of stupidity and common ugliness. English gutless.<br /> The main need is for Labour to dispose of yesterdays old NZers Goff, King etcRobert Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-66625502841337642902014-04-30T15:09:14.983+12:002014-04-30T15:09:14.983+12:00"When people behave like sheep, they're g..."When people behave like sheep, they're governed by wolves" Very apt today.<br /><br />Agreed Chris, the TUC is a large organisation but does it have any teeth? They certainly haven't been pushing the rights and work conditions of the lowest paid workers.<br /><br />Whther we like them or not, what unions do is make sure that the profits are spread out into the economy not just clustered at the top.Davo Stevensnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-5658622137448366182014-04-30T14:20:01.262+12:002014-04-30T14:20:01.262+12:00Well, Jigsaw, that's a pretty bold statement.
...Well, Jigsaw, that's a pretty bold statement.<br /><br />The NZ Council of Trade Unions represents approximately 300,000 trade unionists - making it by far the largest civil organisation in New Zealand.<br /><br />The sexologists, Masters & Johnson, estimated the gay population of the USA at between 2-5 percent. <br /><br />Assuming that New Zealand's gay community represents a similar percentage of the population would put their number somewhere between 90,000 and 225,000. <br /><br />Another rather large figure.<br /><br />And even assuming Labour gets no more votes in 2014 that it got in 2011, the party would still boast the support of 614,937 Kiwis.<br /><br />So, not that small a space, really.Chris Trotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-60996442782227950872014-04-30T13:39:45.883+12:002014-04-30T13:39:45.883+12:00I am told and I am sure that it is true that the l...I am told and I am sure that it is true that the left of the party-those who represent the trade unions and the gaggle were celebrating mightily when Shane Jones left. I can believe this because they seem -like their leader, to have little idea of the actual (small)space that they occupy.Jigsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906156865367357834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-29844263189153040032014-04-30T10:06:31.409+12:002014-04-30T10:06:31.409+12:00Labour need to drop the super at 67 or at least ma...Labour need to drop the super at 67 or at least make it clear that from 60 on those that need it could opt in earlier.<br /><br />There is a couple of percent of the vote in that for late 50s early 60s age people first made redundant under Rogernomics and or flogged out by slaving in a deregulated labour market.Tiger Mountainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-42144106947822674982014-04-30T08:24:48.907+12:002014-04-30T08:24:48.907+12:00Yes, Kat, I can see that and I find it really scar...Yes, Kat, I can see that and I find it really scary. His populist approach reminds me of Muldoon. My partner was a parliamentary reporter when Muldoon first became the leader of the National Party while they were in opposition, and at one of their many 'cocktail parties' I asked an MP (I think it was Doug Carter) why they had chosen such a man; surely they couldn't like or admire him? True, he said, but we know he can win for us. <br />Jannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-3099815947018510282014-04-29T18:35:39.785+12:002014-04-29T18:35:39.785+12:00Jan, unfortunately a large proportion of the elect...Jan, unfortunately a large proportion of the electorate have succumbed to the mind-numbing smile & wave, jokey-blokey, word mangling, BBQ & beer, proud to be a gambler character of the the Prime Minister. <br /><br />It may take some time for them to recover. Cunliffe plans to fast track that recovery post September 20th. Katnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-20232718064605388282014-04-29T15:54:31.255+12:002014-04-29T15:54:31.255+12:00Martin, do you think anyone who does not have stro...Martin, do you think anyone who does not have strong convictions and the determination to succeed is going to survive effectively as the leader of any sort of party? There are leaders and there are followers and everyone has something to offer, but the sort of person who has, as my grandmother would have put it, "a wishbone where his backbone ought to be" is not suitable in a leadership role. Consensus is fine, but eventually someone has to say "this is what we're doing".<br />The important thing to do is listen to what is being said - do you agree with his ideas?Jannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-70223849805916531512014-04-29T09:08:27.411+12:002014-04-29T09:08:27.411+12:00But does anyone believe him? His words say one th...But does anyone believe him? His words say one thing, but his body language says something else. He strikes me as a "my way or the highway" sort of person.Martin Connellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-85730408306226082502014-04-29T09:07:29.441+12:002014-04-29T09:07:29.441+12:00Not surprised that Jones left. He's another ri...Not surprised that Jones left. He's another rightwing socialist. Check his background.<br /><br />Cunliffe has to come up with more help for the lowest paid and multitudinous retail workers. We will see how that pans out as the election rolls on. If he doesn't come up with something that improves their lot, those people will either not vote or vote Greens. Either way Labour is the loser.Davo Stevensnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-80614896524947585512014-04-29T07:40:17.835+12:002014-04-29T07:40:17.835+12:00Politics as usual not working? Excuse me for being...Politics as usual not working? Excuse me for being cynical, but we have heard this before. And all we get is politics as usual.<br />Actually I'm quite happy with politics as usual it's policies as usual that need changing :-).Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.com