tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post964998659443068746..comments2024-03-29T14:26:19.827+13:00Comments on Bowalley Road: Whaddarya? David Slack talks Rugby at the Ika Seafood Bar and Grill.Chris Trotterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09081613281183460899noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-2385077956048098262015-08-31T22:17:00.580+12:002015-08-31T22:17:00.580+12:00Rugby, and Sid Going not passing (his whole job).
...Rugby, and Sid Going not passing (his whole job).<br /><br />Yeah, it's mostly for conservatism, but Israel Dagg after all went to Lindisfarne so his text for the Nats can't be considered entirely representative. There are pluses and minuses to every people, and I don't think you can escape them equalling out. Rugby is an accepted metaphor of that for NZers.<br /><br />Perhaps the Irish are an exception to that rule (this from a NZ Scot). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-17279524023004746372015-08-28T17:35:37.498+12:002015-08-28T17:35:37.498+12:00Bullrush is a primary school, with relatively weak...Bullrush is a primary school, with relatively weak kids rushing past each other, but with in most cases most of them not strong enough to hurt each other. Even those who have played, at third form level in good rugby teams for one the nations more serious rugby schools, know the power level is already immensely greater, particularly if your playing Temuka who will be using players who are 15 and two grades above legality in a 0-0 draw.<br /> Bullrush is just a burst of exhuburance and many New Zealand supposedly greater rugby coaches like Vodanavich and to a degree Fred Allen saw the need to play glorious flowing Rugby and chuck the ball around, but to my mind it was a mindless and hopeless way to play the Springboks in 1970 and Carwn James who ran the Lions in 1971 like a military general against the 1971 All Blacks which were largely inexperience and also considerably dumber that the 1960=-1970 All Blacks.<br /> To me the New Zealand approach of always playing the best team, pointlessly running out 70-0 victories, senselessly wasting players and risking injuries and not sometimes throwing provincial games to rest good players is madness.<br /> Australia and the boks play a intellectual planned game, even now which is why I considered the selection of Robby Deans as Wallaby coach ludicrous. Generally serious Rugby players and quality sportsmen have to be fairly bright in Australia. My view is the Australians misinterpreted Deans Christ College background and the power of his heritage and he would be particularly difficult person for Australians place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-45115977837850731092015-08-28T03:21:19.757+12:002015-08-28T03:21:19.757+12:00the winter of ’81 was unforgettable if you were th...<i>the winter of ’81 was unforgettable if you were there which is why dear leader remains so obviously bullshitting re his memory loss on the Springbok tour</i><br /><br />Here's the thing. If Key came out and said "I was pro-tour in 1981. So was half the country. I was wrong, but it's past now, let's move on," no-one would care. No-one ever bashes Jim Bolger for being pro-tour. It's the fact that Key feels the need to lie about it that makes it such an issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-50464082557975319092015-08-27T23:33:16.370+12:002015-08-27T23:33:16.370+12:00Springbok tour! Foreskin's Lament! Jesus, this...Springbok tour! Foreskin's Lament! Jesus, this post is like a time capsule of lefty baby boomer nostalgia.SHGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-10442441395293263642015-08-27T22:56:09.201+12:002015-08-27T22:56:09.201+12:00Yes well put. Sure is a game of two halves when it...Yes well put. Sure is a game of two halves when it comes to who likes it. Half the country cringes at the love of rugby the other has. I adore the game but understand those who don't, as I grew up in a family where the other members had no time for sport, esp rugby and wanted NZ famous for the arts instead. My Mother referred to the ABs as the 'Nazis of sport'! Extreme but amusing.<br />She did not stop me playing it but in parallel would not let me join the Scouts because she thought they were too alike Hitler Youth. So I joined the Young Nats to annoy her (and meet girls, which was a very poor plan) so she threatened to vote Labour to cancel me out. I left (they were more like Hitler Youth!) and voted for the Wizard instead.Charles Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-36900132254985469402015-08-27T18:24:11.708+12:002015-08-27T18:24:11.708+12:00Must be a different bullrush where he is from.
Al...Must be a different bullrush where he is from.<br /><br />All I remember was playtime fights masked as the game, and all the best players went straight into senior school rugby teamsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-56468086170133680782015-08-27T14:52:08.157+12:002015-08-27T14:52:08.157+12:00The main reason thugby remains unavoidable and on ...The main reason thugby remains unavoidable and on centre stage in this country is because it is a commercial enterprise.<br /><br />It is Big business with a capital B.<br /><br />Truck loads of money and promotion ensures that we can never escape it unrelenting presence - hell, it can even command changes in our liquor laws.Richard Christienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-40086066954737517192015-08-27T13:09:30.246+12:002015-08-27T13:09:30.246+12:00I remember driving past Petone railway station yea...I remember driving past Petone railway station years ago and seeing graffiti which said "why don't all youse cocernuts go home?" Or something similar – to which somebody later added "Don't be stupid, if we did, the All Blacks would be shit."Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-23613281173418326072015-08-27T10:46:47.453+12:002015-08-27T10:46:47.453+12:00Whadarrrrryaa!! indeed, still use that one in vari...Whadarrrrryaa!! indeed, still use that one in various ways with a few extrrra rrrrs etc for effect<br /><br />the winter of ’81 was unforgettable if you were there which is why dear leader remains so obviously bullshitting re his memory loss on the Springbok tour<br /><br />thugby culture remains strong as shown by the PMs 2014 election time appearance on the cover of Rugby News as the de facto All Black captain, so powerful for some and so ludicrous to others, and narrowly avoided being considered a Nat ad by virtue of appearing in a periodical<br /><br />to me rugby remains risible with its macho man hangover and in rural areas assuming the role of Nat front organisations along with fire stations, police stations and lodges etc but the professional era brings its own amusing conflicts with the “old kiwi culture”–I chortle at the monday morning PR sessions with head down players apologising for getting on the piss or whacking their missus, er, partners, and being ‘bad role models’ c’mon guys own your oafishness! Whadarrryaa!!Tiger Mountainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-73387231066023861932015-08-27T08:48:57.168+12:002015-08-27T08:48:57.168+12:00I could probably buy NZ character/ culture being r...I could probably buy NZ character/ culture being rugby based though I believe that is changing fast. MMP is one of the causes and so is the massive immigration the country has experienced in the last decade. I was a active participant against the Springbok tour. The left and the David Slacks of NZ tried to subvert our democracy by supporting Kim Dot Com and his attempt to get into Parliament through the Internet party / Mana party rort. Millions of dollars were involved and many of the left received their share. Most immigrants could not give two figs about our rugby culture and thankfully most of NZ did not give two figs about KDC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-73654691248317880962015-08-27T07:18:50.203+12:002015-08-27T07:18:50.203+12:00A guy I used to work with was walking past a demo ...A guy I used to work with was walking past a demo in 1981, got picked up by the police and slung in the back of a van, to be taken to Auckland Central. Irony was he was a big rugby fan and in favour of the tour. Taught him a little bit about the way the police operated though. We were at teachers training College at the time, and someone organised a trip to the central police station as part of a field trip exercise. The rather nice looking female constable who showed us round, took us to some sort of lecture theatre type thing, and said "this is where we put people on stage so that the bobbies on the beat can have a look at them, and...." "This is purely voluntary on their part of course." – And this guy got up and said "no it bloody isn't, two bloody big policeman come into your cell and drag you out and shove you on the stage." To which she replied "oh God I knew you'd all be stirrers." – To general laughter.Guerilla Surgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427876447124021423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3753486518085091399.post-70317614144990661502015-08-27T06:16:56.649+12:002015-08-27T06:16:56.649+12:00I'd guess that different cohorts of New Zealan...I'd guess that different cohorts of New Zealanders see and think about the game quite differently. Most people under 40 are too young to know much about the 1981 Springbok Tour.<br /><br />My experiences of rugby in New Zealand are very different to those you describe. So much so, I've always tended to think of it as a force for cohesion rather than division.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com